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AITA for refusing to "help" my parents work in a takeaway?

2020.09.26 18:18 Dr4g0San AITA for refusing to "help" my parents work in a takeaway?

First of all, i am on a phone typing this so i may have a lot of typos.
Background: Me and my parents (Me: 16M, Nationality - Full Chinese, My Parents 39-40 also full Chinese, siblings - 2M and 10F) am living in the UK. Posting Date: 26th of september 2020. I moved to the UK when I was 5 (2010).
I started helping my parentd and relatives around 2018 in a restaurant, that the relatives own, waiting tables while my parents works in the kitchen. I was ok at that time, until i moved an hour or two from where I used to live (From North Wales to Manchester).
We started with a quiet takeaway And my parents were able to work their way up. I had to give them £140 from my own pockets which was earned by my uncle from working in the restaurant (where i lived) to help them get started. I "Helped" them for almost a year now and never got paid back because "you work for getting your living expenses paid."
Massive skip in time: it was around may of 2020 when i started to get really annoyed with my parents calling me out of nowhere to do less and less stuff, like when it isnt that busy, one customer would come in and they call me to "help" them. the orders the customer orders arent that long and still calls me like its filled with 5 customers and full of different foods that needs cooking. This happens EVERY SINGLE DAY, once every 2 hours on a weekday and like 3 times every 20-30 minutes. The internet gets switched off 2am in the morning and I can't switch it back on until they do around 12pm in the afternoon, which im normally in school. (They need the plug so they can get calls from customers from a business telephone, which also connects to the broadband internet.)
I barely have enough time to do homework when I get assigned online homework. And if you think that i would get an allowence? Ha, You're funny. NO I didn't. they would normally buy me clothes when I never requested for clothes and tells me to work my A** (Butt) off to repay the money that I Owe them for buying me clothes.
Yestersay (25th september), (I'm also in college now) me and my parents had an arguement and I wouldn't help them, which then went into a massive arguement of me leaving and my mother telling me to go live in the streets. I couldn't take it and ran into my room and tried starving myself and didnt want to come out of my own room. I cried, fainted (I think, cause i normally stay under my blanket and suffocate from lack of oxygen) and woke up multiple times until it was 6am, which i cheered myself by surfing on the internet with my own data.
I don't know what else i need to add, so if you would like extra information, request it below and i would see if i could add edits and add extra information for you.
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2020.09.01 19:19 olund94 Dead People With Something To Say 0.7: John Dee

DEAD PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING TO SAY 0.7
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John Dee
We can say little about modern occultism without it connecting back in some fashion to the work of Mr John Dee.

Who He Was

Born to Roland and Johanna Dee in 1527, John spent the best years of his life as the consigliere to Queen Elizabeth the 1st and coined terms such as “The British Empire” whilst using Astrology to inform the Queens expansion of the empire in the 16th century. He used to sign his name as “007” and stands as the conceptual foundation for Ian Fleming’s James Bond series, he also acts as a early example of how occult practices can inform intelligence and military excursions.
In the latter half of Dee’s life we see a decline in reputation, wealth and mental and physical health as he begins to peruse a series of conversations with angels using a young man by the name of Edward Kelley as a medium.
It’s this juxtaposition of credible claims that make the life of John Dee such a fascinating one.
As a man that definitely existed, little allegory is necessary to decipher the intentions of Mr Dee.
He spent the first half of his life directing the British Empire and then left this cause to dive head first into the world of the infallible, the ludicrous and the unknown.
Through a modern lens this decision might signify a fall from grace and many of Dee’s peers took this stance.
After Dee’s public reputation had been tarnished due to his spiritual exercises reaching the public’s consciousness, he fled in disgrace to Eastern Europe and held meetings with several members of the Polish royal family before returning home to find his house ransacked and his persona vilified. Despite this soiling of his image Elizabeth still took pity on him and made him the Warden of the Manchester Cathedral, a position he remained in till his death in 1609.
Now to a skeptical eye the tale of John Dee may come across as interesting, sure, but largely significant only for the historical impact his assistance to Queen Elizabeth had on the expansion of the British Empire but this author is willing to out on a limb and say it is the occult workings of Mr Dee that have influenced the world we live in today more than any other aspect of his life.
Conversations with angels.

What He Said

A ridiculous concept from the get go.
Angels aren’t real therefore Mr Dee was simply a sufferer of a mental alignment like Schizophrenia right?
Any writings garnered from this phenomenon should be relegated to the category of the ravings of a madman and have no bearing on the rational world of science that we live in today, if that is, we live in the world one thought we lived in that has been built upon scientific thought and rationality?
I wouldn’t be so fast to dismiss the frenzied visions of Mr Kelley or any perpetrated medium offering revelations from the astral plane.
Besides, two of the worlds most popular religions have been formed off of this basis.
The narratives that surround the origins of the Islamic and Mormon faiths both feature a very similar tale to the one of John Dee.
All three men spent time deprived from their senses, communicating with a perceived otherworldly intelligence and all three wrote volumes of writings regarding and “from” the perceived entity. Mohammed and Joseph Smith have large followings as of 2020 and Islam and Mormonism are household names so why have the writings of John Dee fly under the radar?
Maybe it had something to do with the content of what John and Edward were being told by these so called angels. The initial concept of a channeling, or mediumship or in short speaking with an deity is so knee jerking that 99% of the time the baby is thrown out with the bath water.
Because the idea itself is so ludicrous we rarely get around to actually reading the information that was channeled and I believe it is here where a large amount of the skepticism developed when discussing channeled works.
To understand the Angels dialogues one must me familiar with the biblical character Enoch) and the associated apocrypha that refers to him.
Apocrypha is simply a religious work that refers to the main doctrine of a regime on but is not considered “canon)” by the representing organisation that surrounds a religion.
From the Church’s point of view it’s fan fiction but in a case such as the Dead Sea Scrolls some of the oldest copies of the legitimate Bible books were found in a cave near the Red Sea alongside comparatively old versions of a smattering of Christian and Jewish Apocrypha, including a certain Book of Enoch..
It’s this “coincidence” that allows one to say that maybe the church’s ousting of apocrypha is motivated not but truth but by control. This implication becomes clear once one understands what the narrative of the Book of Enoch brings the table from storytelling point of view.
You may have heard the name Enoch listed in the descendants of Adam and Eve after they are kicked out of the Garden of Eden. They begat Cain, Able and Seth and started a lineage of humans that pass down the story of man in the garden with the serpent.
This tale takes place in between the expulsion of AandE from Eden but before Noah’s flood and is referred to a the Antediluvian period, the time of The War In Heaven or the Titanomachy.
These three words correspond to different cultures speaking upon the same period of time. The Sumerian’s, the Abrahamic Religions and the Ancient Greeks are the three listed here but every single religion and culture has a word to describe this period of time.
It’s seems to refer to a period of time where:
  1. The “gods” that created humanity still roamed the earth in the fashion we do today.
  2. Gods interfered with the affairs of man..
  3. Man, in lieu of Science and Rationality, was subservient to a force we now refer to as “god, terms to describe this force are in the thousands and contain but are not limited to El), Ba’al, Elohim, The Watchers and their offspring the Nephillim), The Anunnaki, The Titans), The Ennead... the list goes on.
  4. By the time big JC (Jesus) is rolling into Bethlehem, possibly by the time of Ezekiel roughly around 600 BC, this force no longer appears on the physical plane. It only appears to “chosen” individuals or mediums and a large amount of ritualistic preparation is required to initiate contact. This period of time also marks a sharp rise in divination techniques such as the casting of lots, scrying and trance states were utilised you communicate with our estranged creator.
This set up to the story of the Book of Enoch is required so one can understand what the intelligences John Dee was in communication with were trying to say in the context of the cultural period Dee lived in and the perpetrated time period these so called angels were from.
Enoch is a seventh generation descendant of Adam and Eve and great grandfather to Noah. His mentions in a bogstandard common bible are minimal and only small references his ascents to heaven occur.
One of note would be shortly before Noah’s flood and is a mere mention in the Genealogy of Adam to Noah. It simply states, like the 6 preceding ancestors on the list, that Enoch was born to Jared and was the father of Methuselah, in the same fashion as preceding entries. Enoch is significant because there is a small addition to his entry on the Birth to Birth checklist compared to his ancestors.
Each patriarch’s age is listed and in keeping with pre-flood oddities people were seemingly living to, by today’s standards, unprecedented ages.
Adam lived to 930 and his descendants fare similarly but Enoch is only reported as living for a measly 365 years by comparison and does not “die” in the traditional sense but instead is “taken by God” and is always referred to as “the one who did not see death”.
Otherwise in the basic modern version of the Christian Bible this is the full extent of the explanation of Enoch’s life and can be considered a footnote. A cryptic message to be easily brushed past. Which brings us around to the Book of Enoch. Antediluvian literature is particularly difficult to come by namely due to the ambiguity of what was actually happening. Each culture puts their own perspective lens on the situation but what can be construed from looking at a cross section of these pre-flood narratives is that this period of time represented a time when man was on the path the serpent had put us on leading to our exile from Eden of becoming gods and seeming the gods weren’t best pleased about the coming workers unionisation.
I’m going to list a few ancient tales that elude to this time period so one can really pain a picture of what the allegory for this narrative is and paint a vibrant image of the period in ones head.
It is the Sumerian tale of Enki and Enlil that provides us with our context for a War occurring within heaven.
According to Sumerian tradition humans were created to carry the workload of the gods. They were preceded by a race of smaller workers called the Igigi who revolted against upper management (their creator, the gods, Anunaki ect) and this was the catalyst for designing Humanity.
A worker that didn’t revolt.)
This is the precedent for the points listed earlier. “Gods” and man lived together and gods intervened in the affairs of man.
Some clarification surrounding the word “gods” is required here.
To understand the difference between a “god” with a small g like Zeus or Enki and the overarching architect of the universe (ie God with a big G), one must look to what Gnostic scriptures called “The Demierge”.
This concept relates to the supposed God that appeared to have built Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden and suggests that this god was a sort of self-obsessed egotistical being) that did truly believe it was the creator of the universe whilst mearly being a imposter. Christian imagery has led us into think of “God” as a bearded man in the sky that namely has our best intentions at heart but when one consults the scripture this simply doesn’t seem to be the case. In fact, our father who art in heaven actually seems quite temperamental if the Torah is anything to go by.
Man’s relationship with God in the Torah is akin to one of parent and small child.
Parent lays down law and leaves to go about errands. Child disobeys ruling. Parent “comes down” and disciplines whilst citing jealousy as the motivation for his anger.
This occurs numerous times from the Garden of Eden to Mt Sinai and loops back round to the story of Enki and Enlil.
See in the Sumerian tale Enlil and Enki have equal parts in creating humanity and each have opposing views of their creation.
Enlil sees man as subservient to Gods and has little empathy for his creation whilst Enki may be seen as the fun uncle of humanity, passing in knowledge when possible and even alerting the Sumerian Noah to upcoming flood. So we can see that the Catholic narrative seemingly is a simplification off the original Sumerian and by amalgamating all this confusing Enki/Enlil business into one simple “God” figure removes the ability for one to discern the personality and aspirations of a deity.
Quite a convenient standpoint for a religion that has used its doctrine for the mass control of the entire population to have isn’t it?
Don’t confuse yourself with all this different gods and deities business, just think of it as a big bearded man in the sky that will send you to hell if you don’t obey his rules.
That seems to be the mantra of the Catholic Church and it is for this reason that scripture like the Book of Enoch, whilst still being found with some of the oldest copies of the bible humanity has to date, get relegated to the nonsense pile.
So basically what I’m saying is, is that the Catholic Church, who’s book is mostly considered to be nonsense by most of the general public, are aware of a large amount of texts that have been discovered alongside texts they consider to be “sacred” but consider “some” of them to be pseudepigraphal in nature and it is this authors assumption that this has been done to deter the masses from understand the true nature of god.
With all this in mind we can now talk about Enoch and his role as a patriarch.
In the Book of Enoch, Enoch is known in his native land as a medium of sorts. He analyses dreams, can see the gods and brings knowledge to the physical world from heaven. It states that the things he sees and brings back from heaven will not transpire to his generation but a future generation to come. It also details the tale of The Watchers, angels that have been cast out of Heaven for disobeying god that have reproduced with earthly women to create what is known as the Nephillim, Anak or GriGori which can be imagined as Giants and Cyclopes, Sasquatch or Yeti like creatures or through a modern scientific lens Dinosaurs and Large Sea Creatures.
Basically genetic monstrosities that our creator wants destroying.
These angels or Watchers are led by Azazel who is represented in the common day bible by a Goat that has had humanity’s sins placed upon it and cast out into the desert. The very origin of the word scapegoat can be found from this tale and the origins of Satan or Baphomet having a goats head stem from this tale.
Another example of how the devils of the catholic dogma are simply well designed smear campaigns against elements of the philosophical landscape that the church wanted suppressed due to their revolutionary nature and depiction of the true nature of god.
It is useful to consult the Islamic scripture on this issue as Azazel and Enoch are both very present in the Quran along with this entire War in Heaven narrative.
In fact in the Muslim version it is God himself that challenges three angel to live as men to and try to not fall to the temptation of sin and that is how we end up with our Nephillim situation.
It also touches on the menial nature of the wants and actions of gods in comparison to the compassionate needs of humanity.
The Hindus say that what we are currently experiencing is a gods dream and Gnostic scriptures talk of a god of nothingness and order bringing about chaos and existence simply out of boredom so for Azazel being known as the scapegoat in allegorical Christian scripture begins to start to make more sense.
Enoch is also know in Islamic scripture as the angel Idris and can be affiliated with the Christian Metatron.
It is implied that the angels were sent down to teach righteousness but were tempted into sin and because of this we have the Nephillim.
Whilst all sin is said to come from Azazel, the set up for this transpiring was instigated by higher management. Azazel is said to have taught man the skills of metal work, cosmetics and deception and this is the crime that gets him banished from heaven in the first place. It is said that the learning of these facets led to bloodshed and godlessness. To be blunt, people were eating and fucking one another with no regard for respect or decency and this isn’t good for the sustainability of humanity and therefore god is angered.
Hence a flood is coming to cleanse this wrongdoing and the resulting Nephillim or offspring of this a period of godlessness are receiving nightmares regarding the upcoming rapture.
It is Enoch that is called upon to decipher the dreams and direct the giants through the use of Hekalot literature.
Hekalot and Merkaba mysticism relate to a selection of Jewish texts that have been held close to the orthodoxies chest for centuries. Kabbalah texts also fall under this bracket and all three can be described as texts that facilitate or inform one on the nature, how to communicate with and how to travel through the realm of God.
  • Merkaba refers to texts detailing methods of the accent through the heavens.
  • Hekalot refers to texts that enable the apparition of the Divine Council.
  • Kabbalah relates to texts that describe how god shows him self in the physical world.
All three of these categories of scripture have rules surrounding them and prior to the advent of the internet revealing these ancient topics was punishable and only a rabbi could only teach them to the most accomplished student.
Although these are fascinating points of research and well worth spending time upon, right now all you need to know is that these texts collect the information these supposed fallen angels gave to humanity and for that reason are considered highly holy and have been kept secret for centuries only to be studied by the upper echelons of the Jewish and Christian hierarchies.
As we know the flood does come and wipe clean the abominations that covered the earth leaving only Noah, being the only survivor and witness of the old way, to repopulate the world with a sustainable genealogy. The renegade angels get relegated to the fiery pits of Sheol and we move towards an era when gods are simply a word of mouth idea not something one sees.
It is only at this point, with this context now in place, that we can return to the life of John Dee for to understand the significance of the mans findings one must be aware of the above narratives.
For the angels that Edward Kelly and Dee apparently spoke to were the very same angels that led the War in Heaven and their writings provide a continuation of the narrative that begin 1,500 years or more prior.
Edward Kelly met John Dee at the age of 27, being nearly 30 years younger than Dee at the time of their meeting and was fairly instantly thrown into the world of what is known today as Enochian mysticism.
One may begin to see why the lengthy setup describing Enoch’s life was now necessary.
See Dee himself had been attempting to communicate with angels on his own for months via Crystal ball gazing to no avail and was looking for a young susceptible medium to take on the more physically demanding evocations.
It is at this point in John Dee’s tale that the author became rather perplexed at the reality of what seemed to transpire.
Seemingly Mr Kelly would meet up with Mr Dee at his house in Mortlake, Kelly would induce a trance state by either gazing into a mirror or crystal ball or by ingesting a mysterious red powder that has yet to be identified and begin to talk to the angels. Kelly would relay what they said back to Dee and Dee would act as scribe and take down whatever was being said.
Now this could all be written off as schizophrenic ramblings but there are few points of interest that might make even the most skeptical individual raise an eyebrow.
  1. This partnership went on for 7 years. Either party had plenty of time to either leave or contest the legitimacy of these visions.
  2. Kelly actually did “escape” Dee’s captivity and ran away only to come back citing that the work they had been conducting was too important.
  3. Kelly received physical damage from these angels in the form of scars, bruises and apparent blindness at one point.
  4. An entire language referred to as Enochian as been derived from Dee and Kelly’s sessions and is still used today in the Golden Dawn and Thelemic traditions.
  5. This endeavour tarnished Dee’s public persona and by the end of his life was living mostly off charity from others.
These three points raise large scale concern regarding the perpetrated lunacy of Dee’s occult endeavours and this is without considering what the angels were actually apparently saying.
If we consider the depictions of the angels from back in Noah’s day they do seem physical in nature and seem to have long standing effect on the physical world. Compare this to the era of Dee and Kelly and they only appear after being summoned and a medium is required to hear their message. Almost like they have been banished or relegated to a space where remote access to this plane is available to them.
From Sheol to Earth.
It seems to imply that in a roundabout sense the apocryphal narrative is correct, these intelligences are no longer physical and can only impact on humanity through an avatar so to speak.
Which speaks to the idea from the antediluvian story that angels were bound to earth until judgment day in a very literal sense at least in this authors opinion. To elaborate on what I mean one may look into the nature of the domaine as to where the angels were "bound" after the Flood, the history of the construction of transistors and the use of precious rocks in their construction.
The device you are using to read this relies on precious stones and it is that concept that one must understand to see where we are now.
If you can see the synergy between
Then you are on the right path to having a chance at understanding what is going on.
From their earthbound prison they foretold of a coming apocalypse, in the same vain as was told in the Book of Revelation and in the revelations of Enoch, although this apocalypse was a coming event not one that was currently transpiring. They spoke with a tone of contempt for humanity and preached a message of detaching from the physical world to dwell in prayer until a time when gods wrath would condemn the malevolent force back to from whence it came.
The prophecy speaks with an abundance of familiar biblical terms like Babylon, The Bottomless Pit and The Rising Dragon which all sound very dated and hard to picture but seen through the correct lens they speak upon the world we live in today. Observing the synergy between the systems of Dee and Kelly with the work of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and subsequently the works of Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons one can see how hypothetically there is a non-visible intelligence attempting to warn humanity of an oncoming event.
Enoch’s Prophecies
To
The Book of Revelation
To
Mohammed's Cave Visions
To
Dee and Kelly’s Watchtowers
To
Joesph Smith and the Golden Plates
To
The Aeon of Horus
To
The Babalon Working
To
The Channeled Works of the 1950’s UFO Flap
We consider each of these an individual case of madness that has no baring in the physical rational world, but combine them together and you have a longstanding tradition of humanity communicating with a force of a higher nature. There would be no point in covering the above cases without prior knowledge of Dee’s attempts to commune with this intelligence and this speaks to why Dee has been covered at this juncture in this series.
The others will follow.

Why It Matters

In the interest of attempting to wrap this up, the point of this whole spiel would be to point out the lunacy that is John Dee’s entire existence.
Much like this series itself, the sum of the total parts of Dee’s existence make him worth talking about.
His entire ideology should be relegated to the realms of insanity yet his angel summoning table made entirely of beeswax is on show at the British Museum and it’s things like this that leads one to believe that somebody somewhere takes Dee’s Enochian excursions seriously.
In the public eye his efforts have been recognised by many contemporary figures such as;
It is a this juncture that we begin to see the reason for entertaining the life of Mr Dee at all.
Although the esoteric nature of his life’s work relegates it’s deciphering to a select group of dedicated occultists, Dee is still a household name to many for his position next to Queen Elizabeth and his contributions to the coinage and expansion of the British Empire and whilst this may be the capacity he is now known as the age of information progress and characters like Crowley and Parsons have their well deserved day in the spotlight, it will be an analysis of Dr Dee’s Enochian Adventures that will really offer a fruitful bounty of first hand knowledge from the a higher intelligences itself.
Until next time here at MIPLTD, Ølund wishes you a fruitful day and restful evening 🙌
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2020.09.01 11:51 olund94 Dead People With Something To Say 0.7: John Dee

DEAD PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING TO SAY 0.7
An ongoing project consisting of a collection of biographies of people that have been overlooked in the annals of history. Categorised as counterculture, pseudoscience and absolute lunacy these individuals were not listened to whilst they lived and it’s only upon re-evaluation it becomes clear that a distinct pattern of thought has been suppressed throughout history and has shaped the society we live in today.
Sub to /TheMysterySchool for daily updates of this nature.
John Dee
We can say little about modern occultism without it connecting back in some fashion to the work of Mr John Dee.

Who He Was

Born to Roland and Johanna Dee in 1527, John spent the best years of his life as the consigliere to Queen Elizabeth the 1st and coined terms such as “The British Empire” whilst using Astrology to inform the Queens expansion of the empire in the 16th century. He used to sign his name as “007” and stands as the conceptual foundation for Ian Fleming’s James Bond series, he also acts as a early example of how occult practices can inform intelligence and military excursions.
In the latter half of Dee’s life we see a decline in reputation, wealth and mental and physical health as he begins to peruse a series of conversations with angels using a young man by the name of Edward Kelley as a medium.
It’s this juxtaposition of credible claims that make the life of John Dee such a fascinating one.
As a man that definitely existed, little allegory is necessary to decipher the intentions of Mr Dee.
He spent the first half of his life directing the British Empire and then left this cause to dive head first into the world of the infallible, the ludicrous and the unknown.
Through a modern lens this decision might signify a fall from grace and many of Dee’s peers took this stance.
After Dee’s public reputation had been tarnished due to his spiritual exercises reaching the public’s consciousness, he fled in disgrace to Eastern Europe and held meetings with several members of the Polish royal family before returning home to find his house ransacked and his persona vilified. Despite this soiling of his image Elizabeth still took pity on him and made him the Warden of the Manchester Cathedral, a position he remained in till his death in 1609.
Now to a skeptical eye the tale of John Dee may come across as interesting, sure, but largely significant only for the historical impact his assistance to Queen Elizabeth had on the expansion of the British Empire but this author is willing to out on a limb and say it is the occult workings of Mr Dee that have influenced the world we live in today more than any other aspect of his life.
Conversations with angels.

What He Said

A ridiculous concept from the get go.
Angels aren’t real therefore Mr Dee was simply a sufferer of a mental alignment like Schizophrenia right?
Any writings garnered from this phenomenon should be relegated to the category of the ravings of a madman and have no bearing on the rational world of science that we live in today, if that is, we live in the world one thought we lived in that has been built upon scientific thought and rationality?
I wouldn’t be so fast to dismiss the frenzied visions of Mr Kelley or any perpetrated medium offering revelations from the astral plane.
Besides, two of the worlds most popular religions have been formed off of this basis.
The narratives that surround the origins of the Islamic and Mormon faiths both feature a very similar tale to the one of John Dee.
All three men spent time deprived from their senses, communicating with a perceived otherworldly intelligence and all three wrote volumes of writings regarding and “from” the perceived entity. Mohammed and Joseph Smith have large followings as of 2020 and Islam and Mormonism are household names so why have the writings of John Dee fly under the radar?
Maybe it had something to do with the content of what John and Edward were being told by these so called angels. The initial concept of a channeling, or mediumship or in short speaking with a deity is so knee jerking in itself that 99% of the time the baby is thrown out with the bath water.
Because the idea itself is so ludicrous we rarely get around to actually reading the information that was channeled and I believe it is here where a large amount of the skepticism developed when discussing channeled works.
To understand the angels’s dialogues one must me familiar with the biblical character Enoch) and the associated apocrypha that refers to him.
Apocrypha is simply a religious work that refers to the main doctrine of a regime on but is not considered “canon)” by the representing organisation that surrounds a religion.
From the Church’s point of view it’s fan fiction but in a case such as the Dead Sea Scrolls some of the oldest copies of the legitimate Bible books were found in a cave near the Red Sea alongside comparatively old versions of a smattering of Christian and Jewish Apocrypha, including a certain Book of Enoch..
It’s this “coincidence” that allows one to say that maybe the church’s ousting of apocrypha is motivated not but truth but by control. This implication becomes clear once one understands what the narrative of the Book of Enoch brings the table from storytelling point of view.
You may have heard the name Enoch listed in the descendants of Adam and Eve after they are kicked out of the Garden of Eden. They begat Cain, Able and Seth and started a lineage of humans that pass down the story of man in the garden with the serpent.
This tale takes place in between the expulsion of AandE from Eden but before Noah’s flood and is referred to a the Antediluvian period, the time of The War In Heaven or the Titanomachy.
These three words correspond to different cultures speaking upon the same period of time. The Sumerian’s, the Abrahamic Religions and the Ancient Greeks are the three listed here but every single religion and culture has a word to describe this period of time.
It’s seems to refer to a period of time where:
  1. The “gods” that created humanity still roamed the earth in the fashion we do today.
  2. Gods interfered with the affairs of man..
  3. Man, in lieu of Science and Rationality, was subservient to a force we now refer to as “god, terms to describe this force are in the thousands and contain but are not limited to El), Ba’al, Elohim, The Watchers and their offspring the Nephillim), The Anunnaki, The Titans), The Ennead... the list goes on.
  4. By the time big JC (Jesus) is rolling into Bethlehem, possibly by the time of Ezekiel roughly around 600 BC, this force no longer appears on the physical plane. It only appears to “chosen” individuals or mediums and a large amount of ritualistic preparation is required to initiate contact. This period of time also marks a sharp rise in divination techniques such as the casting of lots, scrying and trance states were utilised to communicate with our estranged creator.
This set up to the story of the Book of Enoch is required so one can understand what the intelligences John Dee was in communication with were trying to say in the context of the cultural period Dee lived in and the perpetrated time period these so called angels were from.
Enoch is a seventh generation descendant of Adam and Eve and great grandfather to Noah. His mentions in a bogstandard common bible are minimal and only small references his ascents to heaven occur.
One of note would be shortly before Noah’s flood and is a mere mention in the Genealogy of Adam to Noah. It simply states, like the 6 preceding ancestors on the list, that Enoch was born to Jared and was the father of Methuselah, in the same fashion as preceding entries. Enoch is significant because there is a small addition to his entry on the Birth to Birth checklist compared to his ancestors.
Each patriarch’s age is listed and in keeping with pre-flood oddities people were seemingly living to, by today’s standards, unprecedented ages.
Adam lived to 930 and his descendants fare similarly but Enoch is only reported as living for a measly 365 years by comparison and does not “die” in the traditional sense but instead is “taken by God” and is always referred to as “the one who did not see death”.
Otherwise in the basic modern version of the Christian Bible this is the full extent of the explanation of Enoch’s life and can be considered a footnote. A cryptic message to be easily brushed past. Which brings us around to the Book of Enoch. Antediluvian literature is particularly difficult to come by namely due to the ambiguity of what was actually happening. Each culture puts their own perspective lens on the situation but what can be construed from looking at a cross section of these pre-flood narratives is that this period of time represented a time when man was on the path the serpent had put us on leading to our exile from Eden of becoming gods and seeming the gods weren’t best pleased about the coming workers unionisation.
I’m going to list a few ancient tales that elude to this time period so one can really pain a picture of what the allegory for this narrative is and paint a vibrant image of the period in ones head.
It is the Sumerian tale of Enki and Enlil that provides us with our context for a War occurring within heaven.
According to Sumerian tradition humans were created to carry the workload of the gods. They were preceded by a race of smaller workers called the Igigi who revolted against upper management (their creator, the gods, Anunaki ect) and this was the catalyst for designing Humanity.
A worker that didn’t revolt.)
This is the precedent for the points listed earlier. “Gods” and man lived together and gods intervened in the affairs of man.
Some clarification surrounding the word “gods” is required here.
To understand the difference between a “god” with a small g like Zeus or Enki and the overarching architect of the universe (ie God with a big G), one must look to what Gnostic scriptures called “The Demierge”.
This concept relates to the supposed God that appeared to have built Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden and suggests that this god was a sort of self-obsessed egotistical being) that did truly believe it was the creator of the universe whilst mearly being a imposter. Christian imagery has led us into think of “God” as a bearded man in the sky that namely has our best intentions at heart but when one consults the scripture this simply doesn’t seem to be the case. In fact, our father who art in heaven actually seems quite temperamental if the Torah is anything to go by.
Man’s relationship with God in the Torah is akin to one of parent and small child.
Parent lays down law and leaves to go about errands. Child disobeys ruling. Parent “comes down” and disciplines whilst citing jealousy as the motivation for his anger.
This occurs numerous times from the Garden of Eden to Mt Sinai and loops back round to the story of Enki and Enlil.
See in the Sumerian tale Enlil and Enki have equal parts in creating humanity and each have opposing views of their creation.
Enlil sees man as subservient to Gods and has little empathy for his creation whilst Enki may be seen as the fun uncle of humanity, passing in knowledge when possible and even alerting the Sumerian Noah to upcoming flood. So we can see that the Catholic narrative seemingly is a simplification off the original Sumerian and by amalgamating all this confusing Enki/Enlil business into one simple “God” figure removes the ability for one to discern the personality and aspirations of a deity.
Quite a convenient standpoint for a religion that has used its doctrine for the mass control of the entire population to have isn’t it?
Don’t confuse yourself with all this different gods and deities business, just think of it as a big bearded man in the sky that will send you to hell if you don’t obey his rules.
That seems to be the mantra of the Catholic Church and it is for this reason that scripture like the Book of Enoch, whilst still being found with some of the oldest copies of the bible humanity has to date, get relegated to the nonsense pile.
So basically what I’m saying is, is that the Catholic Church, who’s book is mostly considered to be nonsense by most of the general public, are aware of a large amount of texts that have been discovered alongside texts they consider to be “sacred” but consider “some” of them to be pseudepigraphal in nature and it is this authors assumption that this has been done to deter the masses from understand the true nature of god.
With all this in mind we can now talk about Enoch and his role as a patriarch.
In the Book of Enoch, Enoch is known in his native land as a medium of sorts. He analyses dreams, can see the gods and brings knowledge to the physical world from heaven. It states that the things he sees and brings back from heaven will not transpire to his generation but a future generation to come. It also details the tale of The Watchers, angels that have been cast out of Heaven for disobeying god that have reproduced with earthly women to create what is known as the Nephillim, Anak or GriGori which can be imagined as Giants and Cyclopes, Sasquatch or Yeti like creatures or through a modern scientific lens Dinosaurs and Large Sea Creatures.
Basically genetic monstrosities that our creator wants destroying.
These angels or Watchers are led by Azazel who is represented in the common day bible by a Goat that has had humanity’s sins placed upon it and cast out into the desert. The very origin of the word scapegoat can be found from this tale and the origins of Satan or Baphomet having a goats head stem from this tale.
Another example of how the devils of the catholic dogma are simply well designed smear campaigns against elements of the philosophical landscape that the church wanted suppressed due to their revolutionary nature and depiction of the true nature of god.
It is useful to consult the Islamic scripture on this issue as Azazel and Enoch are both very present in the Quran along with this entire War in Heaven narrative.
In fact in the Muslim version it is God himself that challenges three angel to live as men to and try to not fall to the temptation of sin and that is how we end up with our Nephillim situation.
It also touches on the menial nature of the wants and actions of gods in comparison to the compassionate needs of humanity.
The Hindus say that what we are currently experiencing is a gods dream and Gnostic scriptures talk of a god of nothingness and order bringing about chaos and existence simply out of boredom so for Azazel being known as the scapegoat in allegorical Christian scripture begins to start to make more sense.
Enoch is also know in Islamic scripture as the angel Idris and can be affiliated with the Christian Metatron.
It is implied that the angels were sent down to teach righteousness but were tempted into sin and because of this we have the Nephillim.
Whilst all sin is said to come from Azazel, the set up for this transpiring was instigated by higher management. Azazel is said to have taught man the skills of metal work, cosmetics and deception and this is the crime that gets him banished from heaven in the first place. It is said that the learning of these facets led to bloodshed and godlessness. To be blunt, people were eating and fucking one another with no regard for respect or decency and this isn’t good for the sustainability of humanity and therefore god is angered.
Hence a flood is coming to cleanse this wrongdoing and the resulting Nephillim or offspring of this a period of godlessness are receiving nightmares regarding the upcoming rapture.
It is Enoch that is called upon to decipher the dreams and direct the giants through the use of Hekalot literature.
Hekalot and Merkaba mysticism relate to a selection of Jewish texts that have been held close to the orthodoxies chest for centuries. Kabbalah texts also fall under this bracket and all three can be described as texts that facilitate or inform one on the nature, how to communicate with and how to travel through the realm of God.
  • Merkaba refers to texts detailing methods of the accent through the heavens.
  • Hekalot refers to texts that enable the apparition of the Divine Council.
  • Kabbalah relates to texts that describe how god shows him self in the physical world.
All three of these categories of scripture have rules surrounding them and prior to the advent of the internet revealing these ancient topics was punishable and only a rabbi could only teach them to the most accomplished student.
Although these are fascinating points of research and well worth spending time upon, right now all you need to know is that these texts collect the information these supposed fallen angels gave to humanity and for that reason are considered highly holy and have been kept secret for centuries only to be studied by the upper echelons of the Jewish and Christian hierarchies.
As we know the flood does come and wipe clean the abominations that covered the earth leaving only Noah, being the only survivor and witness of the old way, to repopulate the world with a sustainable genealogy. The renegade angels get relegated to the fiery pits of Sheol and we move towards an era when gods are simply a word of mouth idea not something one sees.
It is only at this point, with this context now in place, that we can return to the life of John Dee for to understand the significance of the mans findings one must be aware of the above narratives.
For the angels that Edward Kelly and Dee apparently spoke to were the very same angels that led the War in Heaven and their writings provide a continuation of the narrative that begin 1,500 years or more prior.
Edward Kelly met John Dee at the age of 27, being nearly 30 years younger than Dee at the time of their meeting and was fairly instantly thrown into the world of what is known today as Enochian mysticism.
One may begin to see why the lengthy setup describing Enoch’s life was now necessary.
See Dee himself had been attempting to communicate with angels on his own for months via Crystal ball gazing to no avail and was looking for a young susceptible medium to take on the more physically demanding evocations.
It is at this point in John Dee’s tale that the author became rather perplexed at the reality of what seemed to transpire.
Seemingly Mr Kelly would meet up with Mr Dee at his house in Mortlake, Kelly would induce a trance state by either gazing into a mirror or crystal ball or by ingesting a mysterious red powder that has yet to be identified and would begin to talk to the angels. Kelly would relay what they said back to Dee and Dee would act as scribe and take down whatever was being said.
Now this could all be written off as schizophrenic ramblings but there are few points of interest that might make even the most skeptical individual raise an eyebrow.
  1. This partnership went on for 7 years. Either party had plenty of time to either leave or contest the legitimacy of these visions.
  2. Kelly actually did “escape” Dee’s captivity and ran away only to come back citing that the work they had been conducting was too important.
  3. Kelly received physical damage from these angels in the form of scars, bruises and apparent blindness at one point.
  4. An entire language referred to as Enochian as been derived from Dee and Kelly’s sessions and is still used today in the Golden Dawn and Thelemic traditions.
  5. This endeavour tarnished Dee’s public persona and by the end of his life was living mostly off charity from others.
These three points raise large scale concern regarding the perpetrated lunacy of Dee’s occult endeavours and this is without considering what the angels were actually apparently saying.
If we consider the depictions of the angels from back in Noah’s day they do seem physical in nature and seem to have long standing effect on the physical world. Compare this to the era of Dee and Kelly and they only appear after being summoned and a medium is required to hear their message. Almost like they have been banished or relegated to a space where remote access to this plane is available to them.
From Sheol to Earth.
It seems to imply that in a roundabout sense the apocryphal narrative is correct, these intelligences are no longer physical and can only impact on humanity through an avatar so to speak.
Which speaks to the idea from the antediluvian story that angels were bound to earth until judgment day in a very literal sense at least in this authors opinion. To elaborate on what I mean one may look into the nature of the domaine as to where the angels were "bound" after the Flood, the history of the construction of transistors and the use of precious rocks in their construction.
The device you are using to read this relies on precious stones and it is that concept that one must understand to see where we are now.
If you can see the synergy between
Then you are on the right path to having a chance at understanding what is going on.
From their earthbound prison they foretold of a coming apocalypse, in the same vain as was told in the Book of Revelation and in the revelations of Enoch, although this apocalypse was a coming event not one that was currently transpiring. They spoke with a tone of contempt for humanity and preached a message of detaching from the physical world to dwell in prayer until a time when gods wrath would condemn the malevolent force back to from whence it came.
The prophecy speaks with an abundance of familiar biblical terms like Babylon, The Bottomless Pit and The Rising Dragon which all sound very dated and hard to picture but seen through the correct lens they speak upon the world we live in today. Observing the synergy between the systems of Dee and Kelly with the work of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and subsequently the works of Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons one can see how hypothetically there is a non-visible intelligence attempting to warn humanity of an oncoming event.
Enoch’s Prophecies
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The Book of Revelation
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Mohammed's Cave Visions
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Dee and Kelly’s Watchtowers
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Joesph Smith and the Golden Plates
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The Aeon of Horus
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The Babalon Working
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The Channeled Works of the 1950’s UFO Flap
We consider each of these an individual case of madness that has no baring in the physical rational world, but combine them together and you have a longstanding tradition of humanity communicating with a force of a higher nature. There would be no point in covering the above cases without prior knowledge of Dee’s attempts to commune with this intelligence and this speaks to why Dee has been covered at this juncture in this series.
The others will follow.

Why It Matters

In the interest of attempting to wrap this up, the point of this whole spiel would be to point out the lunacy that is John Dee’s entire existence.
Much like this series itself, the sum of the total parts of Dee’s existence make him worth talking about.
His entire ideology should be relegated to the realms of insanity yet his angel summoning table made entirely of beeswax is on show at the British Museum and it’s things like this that leads one to believe that somebody somewhere takes Dee’s Enochian excursions seriously.
In the public eye his efforts have been recognised by many contemporary figures such as;
It is a this juncture that we begin to see the reason for entertaining the life of Mr Dee at all.
Although esoteric nature of his life’s work relegates it’s deciphering to a select group of dedicated occultists, Dee is still a household name to many for his position next to Queen Elizabeth and his contributions to the coinage and expansion of the British Empire and whilst this may be the capacity he is now most well known for as the age of information progress and characters like Crowley and Parsons have their well deserved day in the spotlight, it will be an analysis of Dr Dee’s Enochian Adventures that will really offer a fruitful bounty of first hand knowledge from the a higher intelligences itself.
Until next time here at MIPLTD, Ølund wishes you a fruitful day and restful evening 🙌
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2020.08.24 15:27 dataiskings How to create the perfect Tinder profile

When Liam moved to Manchester from south Wales in 2017, he thought he was doing it for lasting love. Dating his girlfriend long distance for over a year, he found a job as a prison officer and moved north to be with her. But after a year he found himself single again and hasn’t managed to date anyone seriously since. He desperately wants a committed, long-term relationship, but is struggling to make it past consistent hook-ups.
When Holly’s relationship fell apart a few months ago, she left London after 13 years of living there, moving with her brand-new dachshund puppy to her hometown of Hastings. But trying to date other women in Hastings has proved less than fruitful.
Dan’s life in London has been pretty good. A graphic designer, just finishing his masters at UCL, he’s got most of it figured out. But at 29, he’s realised that the gay clubbing scene is making it more difficult to meet romantic partners with whom he really connects and is struggling to find someone to date for more than a couple months.
While all three of these people are in vastly situations, one thing unites them: they all absolutely despise their online dating profiles. From Tinder to Bumble to Her to Hinge, they feel cringed-out, awkward and unfulfilled by how they present themselves and feel their dating profile is holding them back.
This is a major problem for online daters. You can be charming, funny and genuinely interesting, but when it comes to writing a bio your mind can go blank. It’s hard to make profiles read the same (see: “I love gin!”, “My pet peeve is slow walkers”) and it’s hard to make your real self stand out. In the US, dating profile styling agencies are even starting to pop up, where people can pay to have this increasingly common dating problem professionally solved. But for those who don’t have hundreds to shell out on professionals, the question still persists: what do you need to do to make your dating profile better?
Liam, Dan and Holly have gotten this question answered. Working with three romantic professionals – a relationships therapist, a dating expert and a professional advertising creative – they have willingly handed over their profiles, histories, and insecurities to be molded into a more authentic version of themselves and get desperately needed news on how to make their dating profile dateable.
The datersLiam
The basics: 28 years old, Welsh, straight, prison officer. Describes himself as a regular guy, interested in sport, going out with his friends, spending time with his family and looking after his dog, Jasper.
Dating history: Has had three serious relationships and says that all of them petered out at the same time – around the two-year mark.
Dating profile description: Mostly selfies, mostly taken in dark rooms, one topless, mostly bordering on scary faces. Bio reads, “I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing / Beards make the world go round / Never watched Game Of Thrones, which is apparently a huge deal? / Welsh boy trespassing in the North, tryna not get kicked out after Brexit...”
Dating problems: Liam’s problem is two-fold. Although his job as a prisoner officer is interesting, it’s not something that defines him – however, it’s the only thing on dating apps that women seem to be interested in talking about. His second problem is that, when he does meet people, there’s miscommunication about what each other wants and he ends up thinking it’s becoming serious when all she wants is something casual.
Looking for: A serious relationship. “What’s the point in having fun if there’s nobody there when you have a rubbish day at work? Who’s there to share your good and bad days, your achievements? Who’s there to pick you up when you’re down? And, ideally, that’s what I’m after. Something real. Something proper.”
Holly
The basics: 31 years old, English, bisexual, working-from-home office manager, dachshund dog mum. Describes herself as multifaceted – funny, smart, well-read and interested in everything from politics to the Kardashians.
Dating history: Has had two serious relationships, one with a man and one with a woman, but is looking to just date women for the time being.
Dating profile description: Mostly close-up selfies, one picture with her dog. Bio reads, “Office manager by day, mum to a mini sausage all the time / Love long conversations, walks with the pup, binge watching Netflix, exploring bars and restaurants, blogging / Looking to meet someone to enjoy my next thing with!”
Dating problems: Holly has paralysis when it comes to talking about herself in a positive way and is terrified of coming off as boastful, cringey or cocky. “I’m down to earth, have a great personality, and I'm quite an all-rounded person. But explaining that to somebody in a few short sentences, to catch somebody's interest and not come off like an absolute knob, is really hard!”
Looking for: Nothing too serious, but someone to actually connect with.
Dan
The basics: 29 years old, half-English, half-Paraguayan, gay, graphic designer, master's student in urban studies. Describes himself as outgoing and adventurous and knows his own self-worth, but he’s growing increasingly tired of dating via the club scene.
Dating history: Has had three boyfriends, none lasting longer than nine months, and has only been on five or six “real dates” in his whole life.
Dating profile description: Mostly semi-ironic bad selfies, two topless, one picture of himself out cycling, one picture with a friend. Bio reads, “Happy, creative, driven, calm and introspective / Once had a full-blown 20-minute argument with Boris Johnson whilst cycling to work / I’m a student with a research interest in queer space, cycling and community-led projects / I’m also a graphic designer on the side. Sometimes an art school tutor. Sometimes a van man / Half-English, half-Paraguayan, born in Hastings / 5’10”.”
Dating problems: Dan is afraid that his profile isn’t drawing in the right person. He thinks he’s more interesting than his profile indicates and doesn’t convey his personality and, therefore, isn’t matching with guys he will actually connect with. He wants his profile to make him appear like someone dateable, not just someone to sleep with.
Looking for: Dating people who he might genuinely get on with, with the possibility for something more serious. “I would like to find guys who are suited to me. And by communicating what I am or who I am in a better way on my dating profile, I might attract the right kind of guys.”
The experts weigh inThe relationships therapist
Sally Baker is a relationships therapist who has appeared on the BBC, in the Observer and in New York Magazine. She says almost all daters do their dating profiles wrong: setting their own personal pitch to low.
“Online dating can be particularly challenging if the person writing their profile isn’t sure what they want for themselves,” Sally says. “Their ambivalence can make their profile read as wishy-washy or uninspiring. Profiles that are written without clarity usually mean you attract the kind of people that aren’t right for you either on a casual basis or for something more serious and long term.
“Of course, it's not about being egotistical or showing off either, as that’s just another kind of knob-head behaviour,” she adds. “It is, however, about describing yourself and what you want in a real, approachable way that would resonate with the right people for you.”
Sally takes all three daters through an exercise she does with all her clients, called “Perfect Day”, getting them to describe what their perfect day would look like, from the location to the activities to with whom that perfect day would ideally be spent. Sally encourages her clients to forget about realistic boundaries and to “dream big” about what their day would look like. “This is so if you only achieve half of what you want in your perfect day it will still be amazing,” she says.
Liam’s perfect day is actually pretty simple: nice meals, walking his dog, spending time with his family and skydiving for the first time. But despite his intense interest in being in a serious, romantic relationship, his day doesn’t mention a partner at all. Instead, it mentions dating as happening the night before and meeting potential prospects at random points between other activities.
“In reality, he seems very much of the casual dating mindset,” Sally says. “He is intrigued by seeing who catches his eye. For sure his day was bookended with the afterglow of a great date and included possibilities with a new woman he met. However, the women mentioned were peripheral to his main story.”
Sally believes that Liam needs to change up his dating profile and whole dating approach; to be less focused on finding a long-term commitment and shifting his profile to encourage something less intense. “I feel that the more comfortable he is taking his time and meeting a variety of partners without putting himself under any commitment pressures, the sooner he will gain clarity about what he needs for himself and bring his life into greater balance,” Sally argues. “When he has greater clarity, he'll find the right woman for him.”
Holly’s day, while similarly simple – nice meals, drinks and dinner with friends, trips to the beach, playing with the dog – lays out huge signposts for something more serious: a long-standing, committed relationship, emotional and physical intimacy and even mentions exploring parenthood at the end of the day.
“Holly is ready for the next stage of her life more than her profile alludes to,” Sally says. “She is ready to meet her significant other and embrace all the possibilities that could bring for her and her partner, including starting their own family.”
Sally believes that Holly’s profile could shout more about herself. “Her profile should show more about how she feels successful in many areas of her life and she can also rightly say how proud she is with the life she’s made for herself. From this place of feeling grounded and content in who she is, she recognises what's missing for her now is the love of her life and that’s who she’s looking for.”
Dan’s perfect day is the most elaborate: living in an apartment in Barcelona, cycling to a lake and going freshwater swimming, drinks with friends, a spontaneous trip out to a warehouse party and staying out until 8am. Sally believes that this excitement, colour and adventurousness should be relayed in Dan’s profile, which, at the moment, reads more like a CV.
“Specifying Latin heritage, or how much he enjoys the way of life in places like Barcelona, could be added to his profile,” Sally says. “I don’t know how Dan would feel about niching down his profile to say exactly what he wants – I think he should. Other people aren’t psychic so sometimes you need to put what you want out there in a straightforward way and see what happens.”
The dating expert
Dami Olonisakin, better known as Oloni, is a dating expert and sex blogger who has been consulting on relationships for the past ten years. She is known for her viral Twitter threads, in which she anonymously shares her readers’ wildest sex stories, as well as her podcast, Laid Bare, which has a listernership reaching the six-figure mark. She also has a dating show coming out with BBC Three at the end of this year called My Mates Are Bad Dates, in which she will consult terrible daters on how to do dating better.
“Whew, people are really bad at taking photos,” she tells me after looking at the three daters’ profiles. Liam, specifically, she thinks needs a major change-up. “There's been research that shows that dating profiles that usually do well are those who basically show off that they're either athletic or that they're into the gym or that they like to keep fit. So if he loves his sport, he needs photos of himself where he's at a match or something, to show that side of him... rather than the dark, gory photos that he's got and sharing that he's a prison officer.”
Oloni agrees that many of Liam’s dating app problems stem from him revealing his job title. “He needs to tone down what he does,” she says, “and when it comes to a job like that, it's not really something you should be screaming about on the internet anyway. Dating profiles are supposed to be fun and quirky, so he needs to show that he’s an outgoing person. It's not supposed to be taken too seriously and he needs to remember that.”
Alongside better pictures – “they all need better photos” – Oloni thinks that Holly is being way too vague in her profile. “She needs to show us a bit more of her personality,” she says. “If she’s well-rounded, if she’s multifaceted, she needs to show that.”
Oloni notes Holly’s apprehension about coming off arrogant or boastful and says that, while it’s entirely normal to hype yourself on your profile, there are some easy ways to signpost features of your personality without blatantly bragging about your best traits.
“If she wants to show us that she's smart, she can probably share that she's a ‘booklover’,” Oloni argues. “No different from someone who's sharing their love for the arts saying that they love going to the movies or that they watched 300 films. I think she just needs to find ways to get it across without saying, ‘I am funny ha ha ha.’ If you're funny, say something that you find hilarious. It can be one-liners, for example, that she feels comfortable expressing. Simply sharing a joke that's not OTT.”
When it comes to Dan’s profile issues, Oloni summarises quite succinctly: “This isn’t your Instagram bio, this is a dating profile.” Dan’s problem she argues, is that he simply lists basic biographical information about himself rather than revealing things about himself that show why he could be a good date – or even an interesting person to get to know.
“He needs to put a bit more effort into his dating profile and to switch things up,” she tells me. “Tell us something interesting about you. What's a fun fact about yourself? What are your interests? What are your hobbies? Put a bit more effort in and you can basically attract someone with the same hobbies or interests.”
“He needs to put more effort in with photos as well,” Oloni says. “He needs to take better photos, find photos of himself where he's gone on holiday. He needs to ask himself as well, if he saw his own dating profile, would he think that person is serious about dating? Not a commitment, but even just looking to date properly and seeing if it could go somewhere, or do they think that that person would just be down to fuck? What would he think? You know, you can tell when you look at a person's profile if they're quite serious or if they're looking to date or if they're just there for a hook-up. You can kind of get that. So he needs to ask himself what is this reflecting? And just give himself a total brand-new start.”
The advertiser
Charlie Palmer is a Planner at Uncommon – a creative agency in London that has worked with brands such as ITV, the World Wildlife Fund and YouTube. “A dating profile, like an advert, has a specific goal,” he tells me. “It has a specific behaviour it wants to promote. In this case, the goal is just to start a conversation. That’s the furthest the profile can get you – after that, your actual personality has to take over. The profile doesn’t get you a girlfriend, or even a date. There’s no point trying to say loads of different things in your Tinder bio.”
With that in mind, he says Liam has several major issues. “Liam needs to simplify that bio,” Charlie argues. “Communicating one thing well is better than communicating four things badly. People are looking through hundreds of profiles – they don’t care enough to read a list of stuff.
“The selfies are a problem on a few levels,” he also says. “Liam’s a very sociable guy, but his profile looks like he doesn’t have any mates to take photos of him. It looks like far too much effort has gone into taking selfies specifically to put on the profile, and, most importantly, a selfie taken in your bedroom is a conversational non-starter.”
Like the other professionals, Charlie argues that Holly needs to sell herself a bit more. “Holly’s profile feels a little like she’s trying to persuade people on the app that she’s good enough for them,” he says. “But she should try the opposite. You want people to be doubting whether they’re good enough for you.”
Charlie says that Holly needs to inject a bit more personality into her bio. “Her bio should be less like a shop window with a sale on and more like a club with a massive (but friendly) bouncer on the door. She should try baby steps to begin with, like, ‘If you don’t like dachshunds this isn’t going to work’ or ‘I have strong views on the Kardashians.’” He also thinks less staged, more candid pictures could go a long way. “Nobody likes an advert that feels like an advert. Everyone likes an advert that feels like an exclusive invitation.”
Dan’s profile, Charlie says, reads too much like a dispassionate list of his features. “Dan needs to show rather than tell,” he tells me. “On paper, it does the job, but he needs to think about his audience a bit more. The profile is designed to give an idea of what it’s like to hang out with you. It’s not a list of qualifications.”
He says that Dan’s pictures could do more to convey his personality too. “If he has photos of himself in context, he should use more of them,” Charlie argues. “He’s listed lots of attributes and interests in the bio that aren’t coming through in the pictures, and the vast majority of communication is visual. It’s particularly difficult to get an idea of what you’re like when you’ve got the same expression in every photo. Mix it up a bit for a more rounded profile.”
Finally, Charlie suggests Dan appeals to the emotional side of his personality to make his profile read less like a CV. “The best advertising is emotional not rational – focus on how you want your profile to feel, not just the things it describes. If you’re funny, be funny. If you’re charming, be charming. What you say or show matters less than how you say it or show it.”
In conclusion
Dating cannot be mastered with just a good profile, and a good profile doesn’t mean you’ve mastered a dating app. Without a decent opening line, an ability to converse like a normal human being and the grace to ask to meet someone IRL without sounding like a serial killer, daters will struggle to get anywhere online. But in order to get to any of those points, a good profile is a necessity, and for Liam, Dan and Holly, theirs can be dramatically – and expertly – improved. And while it may not guarantee that they’ll find the person of their dreams, it is a good, and perhaps the only, place to start. CLICK HERE TO SEE A VIDEO PRESENTATION
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2020.08.24 15:07 dataiskings How to create the perfect Tinder profile

When Liam moved to Manchester from south Wales in 2017, he thought he was doing it for lasting love. Dating his girlfriend long distance for over a year, he found a job as a prison officer and moved north to be with her. But after a year he found himself single again and hasn’t managed to date anyone seriously since. He desperately wants a committed, long-term relationship, but is struggling to make it past consistent hook-ups.
When Holly’s relationship fell apart a few months ago, she left London after 13 years of living there, moving with her brand-new dachshund puppy to her hometown of Hastings. But trying to date other women in Hastings has proved less than fruitful.
Dan’s life in London has been pretty good. A graphic designer, just finishing his masters at UCL, he’s got most of it figured out. But at 29, he’s realised that the gay clubbing scene is making it more difficult to meet romantic partners with whom he really connects and is struggling to find someone to date for more than a couple months.
While all three of these people are in vastly situations, one thing unites them: they all absolutely despise their online dating profiles. From Tinder to Bumble to Her to Hinge, they feel cringed-out, awkward and unfulfilled by how they present themselves and feel their dating profile is holding them back.
This is a major problem for online daters. You can be charming, funny and genuinely interesting, but when it comes to writing a bio your mind can go blank. It’s hard to make profiles read the same (see: “I love gin!”, “My pet peeve is slow walkers”) and it’s hard to make your real self stand out. In the US, dating profile styling agencies are even starting to pop up, where people can pay to have this increasingly common dating problem professionally solved. But for those who don’t have hundreds to shell out on professionals, the question still persists: what do you need to do to make your dating profile better?
Liam, Dan and Holly have gotten this question answered. Working with three romantic professionals – a relationships therapist, a dating expert and a professional advertising creative – they have willingly handed over their profiles, histories, and insecurities to be molded into a more authentic version of themselves and get desperately needed news on how to make their dating profile dateable.
The datersLiam
The basics: 28 years old, Welsh, straight, prison officer. Describes himself as a regular guy, interested in sport, going out with his friends, spending time with his family and looking after his dog, Jasper.
Dating history: Has had three serious relationships and says that all of them petered out at the same time – around the two-year mark.
Dating profile description: Mostly selfies, mostly taken in dark rooms, one topless, mostly bordering on scary faces. Bio reads, “I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing / Beards make the world go round / Never watched Game Of Thrones, which is apparently a huge deal? / Welsh boy trespassing in the North, tryna not get kicked out after Brexit...”
Dating problems: Liam’s problem is two-fold. Although his job as a prisoner officer is interesting, it’s not something that defines him – however, it’s the only thing on dating apps that women seem to be interested in talking about. His second problem is that, when he does meet people, there’s miscommunication about what each other wants and he ends up thinking it’s becoming serious when all she wants is something casual.
Looking for: A serious relationship. “What’s the point in having fun if there’s nobody there when you have a rubbish day at work? Who’s there to share your good and bad days, your achievements? Who’s there to pick you up when you’re down? And, ideally, that’s what I’m after. Something real. Something proper.”
Holly
The basics: 31 years old, English, bisexual, working-from-home office manager, dachshund dog mum. Describes herself as multifaceted – funny, smart, well-read and interested in everything from politics to the Kardashians.
Dating history: Has had two serious relationships, one with a man and one with a woman, but is looking to just date women for the time being.
Dating profile description: Mostly close-up selfies, one picture with her dog. Bio reads, “Office manager by day, mum to a mini sausage all the time / Love long conversations, walks with the pup, binge watching Netflix, exploring bars and restaurants, blogging / Looking to meet someone to enjoy my next thing with!”
Dating problems: Holly has paralysis when it comes to talking about herself in a positive way and is terrified of coming off as boastful, cringey or cocky. “I’m down to earth, have a great personality, and I'm quite an all-rounded person. But explaining that to somebody in a few short sentences, to catch somebody's interest and not come off like an absolute knob, is really hard!”
Looking for: Nothing too serious, but someone to actually connect with.
Dan
The basics: 29 years old, half-English, half-Paraguayan, gay, graphic designer, master's student in urban studies. Describes himself as outgoing and adventurous and knows his own self-worth, but he’s growing increasingly tired of dating via the club scene.
Dating history: Has had three boyfriends, none lasting longer than nine months, and has only been on five or six “real dates” in his whole life.
Dating profile description: Mostly semi-ironic bad selfies, two topless, one picture of himself out cycling, one picture with a friend. Bio reads, “Happy, creative, driven, calm and introspective / Once had a full-blown 20-minute argument with Boris Johnson whilst cycling to work / I’m a student with a research interest in queer space, cycling and community-led projects / I’m also a graphic designer on the side. Sometimes an art school tutor. Sometimes a van man / Half-English, half-Paraguayan, born in Hastings / 5’10”.”
Dating problems: Dan is afraid that his profile isn’t drawing in the right person. He thinks he’s more interesting than his profile indicates and doesn’t convey his personality and, therefore, isn’t matching with guys he will actually connect with. He wants his profile to make him appear like someone dateable, not just someone to sleep with.
Looking for: Dating people who he might genuinely get on with, with the possibility for something more serious. “I would like to find guys who are suited to me. And by communicating what I am or who I am in a better way on my dating profile, I might attract the right kind of guys.”
The experts weigh inThe relationships therapist
Sally Baker is a relationships therapist who has appeared on the BBC, in the Observer and in New York Magazine. She says almost all daters do their dating profiles wrong: setting their own personal pitch to low.
“Online dating can be particularly challenging if the person writing their profile isn’t sure what they want for themselves,” Sally says. “Their ambivalence can make their profile read as wishy-washy or uninspiring. Profiles that are written without clarity usually mean you attract the kind of people that aren’t right for you either on a casual basis or for something more serious and long term.
“Of course, it's not about being egotistical or showing off either, as that’s just another kind of knob-head behaviour,” she adds. “It is, however, about describing yourself and what you want in a real, approachable way that would resonate with the right people for you.”
Sally takes all three daters through an exercise she does with all her clients, called “Perfect Day”, getting them to describe what their perfect day would look like, from the location to the activities to with whom that perfect day would ideally be spent. Sally encourages her clients to forget about realistic boundaries and to “dream big” about what their day would look like. “This is so if you only achieve half of what you want in your perfect day it will still be amazing,” she says.
Liam’s perfect day is actually pretty simple: nice meals, walking his dog, spending time with his family and skydiving for the first time. But despite his intense interest in being in a serious, romantic relationship, his day doesn’t mention a partner at all. Instead, it mentions dating as happening the night before and meeting potential prospects at random points between other activities.
“In reality, he seems very much of the casual dating mindset,” Sally says. “He is intrigued by seeing who catches his eye. For sure his day was bookended with the afterglow of a great date and included possibilities with a new woman he met. However, the women mentioned were peripheral to his main story.”
Sally believes that Liam needs to change up his dating profile and whole dating approach; to be less focused on finding a long-term commitment and shifting his profile to encourage something less intense. “I feel that the more comfortable he is taking his time and meeting a variety of partners without putting himself under any commitment pressures, the sooner he will gain clarity about what he needs for himself and bring his life into greater balance,” Sally argues. “When he has greater clarity, he'll find the right woman for him.”
Holly’s day, while similarly simple – nice meals, drinks and dinner with friends, trips to the beach, playing with the dog – lays out huge signposts for something more serious: a long-standing, committed relationship, emotional and physical intimacy and even mentions exploring parenthood at the end of the day.
“Holly is ready for the next stage of her life more than her profile alludes to,” Sally says. “She is ready to meet her significant other and embrace all the possibilities that could bring for her and her partner, including starting their own family.”
Sally believes that Holly’s profile could shout more about herself. “Her profile should show more about how she feels successful in many areas of her life and she can also rightly say how proud she is with the life she’s made for herself. From this place of feeling grounded and content in who she is, she recognises what's missing for her now is the love of her life and that’s who she’s looking for.”
Dan’s perfect day is the most elaborate: living in an apartment in Barcelona, cycling to a lake and going freshwater swimming, drinks with friends, a spontaneous trip out to a warehouse party and staying out until 8am. Sally believes that this excitement, colour and adventurousness should be relayed in Dan’s profile, which, at the moment, reads more like a CV.
“Specifying Latin heritage, or how much he enjoys the way of life in places like Barcelona, could be added to his profile,” Sally says. “I don’t know how Dan would feel about niching down his profile to say exactly what he wants – I think he should. Other people aren’t psychic so sometimes you need to put what you want out there in a straightforward way and see what happens.”
The dating expert
Dami Olonisakin, better known as Oloni, is a dating expert and sex blogger who has been consulting on relationships for the past ten years. She is known for her viral Twitter threads, in which she anonymously shares her readers’ wildest sex stories, as well as her podcast, Laid Bare, which has a listernership reaching the six-figure mark. She also has a dating show coming out with BBC Three at the end of this year called My Mates Are Bad Dates, in which she will consult terrible daters on how to do dating better.
“Whew, people are really bad at taking photos,” she tells me after looking at the three daters’ profiles. Liam, specifically, she thinks needs a major change-up. “There's been research that shows that dating profiles that usually do well are those who basically show off that they're either athletic or that they're into the gym or that they like to keep fit. So if he loves his sport, he needs photos of himself where he's at a match or something, to show that side of him... rather than the dark, gory photos that he's got and sharing that he's a prison officer.”
Oloni agrees that many of Liam’s dating app problems stem from him revealing his job title. “He needs to tone down what he does,” she says, “and when it comes to a job like that, it's not really something you should be screaming about on the internet anyway. Dating profiles are supposed to be fun and quirky, so he needs to show that he’s an outgoing person. It's not supposed to be taken too seriously and he needs to remember that.”
Alongside better pictures – “they all need better photos” – Oloni thinks that Holly is being way too vague in her profile. “She needs to show us a bit more of her personality,” she says. “If she’s well-rounded, if she’s multifaceted, she needs to show that.”
Oloni notes Holly’s apprehension about coming off arrogant or boastful and says that, while it’s entirely normal to hype yourself on your profile, there are some easy ways to signpost features of your personality without blatantly bragging about your best traits.
“If she wants to show us that she's smart, she can probably share that she's a ‘booklover’,” Oloni argues. “No different from someone who's sharing their love for the arts saying that they love going to the movies or that they watched 300 films. I think she just needs to find ways to get it across without saying, ‘I am funny ha ha ha.’ If you're funny, say something that you find hilarious. It can be one-liners, for example, that she feels comfortable expressing. Simply sharing a joke that's not OTT.”
When it comes to Dan’s profile issues, Oloni summarises quite succinctly: “This isn’t your Instagram bio, this is a dating profile.” Dan’s problem she argues, is that he simply lists basic biographical information about himself rather than revealing things about himself that show why he could be a good date – or even an interesting person to get to know.
“He needs to put a bit more effort into his dating profile and to switch things up,” she tells me. “Tell us something interesting about you. What's a fun fact about yourself? What are your interests? What are your hobbies? Put a bit more effort in and you can basically attract someone with the same hobbies or interests.”
“He needs to put more effort in with photos as well,” Oloni says. “He needs to take better photos, find photos of himself where he's gone on holiday. He needs to ask himself as well, if he saw his own dating profile, would he think that person is serious about dating? Not a commitment, but even just looking to date properly and seeing if it could go somewhere, or do they think that that person would just be down to fuck? What would he think? You know, you can tell when you look at a person's profile if they're quite serious or if they're looking to date or if they're just there for a hook-up. You can kind of get that. So he needs to ask himself what is this reflecting? And just give himself a total brand-new start.”
The advertiser
Charlie Palmer is a Planner at Uncommon – a creative agency in London that has worked with brands such as ITV, the World Wildlife Fund and YouTube. “A dating profile, like an advert, has a specific goal,” he tells me. “It has a specific behaviour it wants to promote. In this case, the goal is just to start a conversation. That’s the furthest the profile can get you – after that, your actual personality has to take over. The profile doesn’t get you a girlfriend, or even a date. There’s no point trying to say loads of different things in your Tinder bio.”
With that in mind, he says Liam has several major issues. “Liam needs to simplify that bio,” Charlie argues. “Communicating one thing well is better than communicating four things badly. People are looking through hundreds of profiles – they don’t care enough to read a list of stuff.
“The selfies are a problem on a few levels,” he also says. “Liam’s a very sociable guy, but his profile looks like he doesn’t have any mates to take photos of him. It looks like far too much effort has gone into taking selfies specifically to put on the profile, and, most importantly, a selfie taken in your bedroom is a conversational non-starter.”
Like the other professionals, Charlie argues that Holly needs to sell herself a bit more. “Holly’s profile feels a little like she’s trying to persuade people on the app that she’s good enough for them,” he says. “But she should try the opposite. You want people to be doubting whether they’re good enough for you.”
Charlie says that Holly needs to inject a bit more personality into her bio. “Her bio should be less like a shop window with a sale on and more like a club with a massive (but friendly) bouncer on the door. She should try baby steps to begin with, like, ‘If you don’t like dachshunds this isn’t going to work’ or ‘I have strong views on the Kardashians.’” He also thinks less staged, more candid pictures could go a long way. “Nobody likes an advert that feels like an advert. Everyone likes an advert that feels like an exclusive invitation.”
Dan’s profile, Charlie says, reads too much like a dispassionate list of his features. “Dan needs to show rather than tell,” he tells me. “On paper, it does the job, but he needs to think about his audience a bit more. The profile is designed to give an idea of what it’s like to hang out with you. It’s not a list of qualifications.”
He says that Dan’s pictures could do more to convey his personality too. “If he has photos of himself in context, he should use more of them,” Charlie argues. “He’s listed lots of attributes and interests in the bio that aren’t coming through in the pictures, and the vast majority of communication is visual. It’s particularly difficult to get an idea of what you’re like when you’ve got the same expression in every photo. Mix it up a bit for a more rounded profile.”
Finally, Charlie suggests Dan appeals to the emotional side of his personality to make his profile read less like a CV. “The best advertising is emotional not rational – focus on how you want your profile to feel, not just the things it describes. If you’re funny, be funny. If you’re charming, be charming. What you say or show matters less than how you say it or show it.”
In conclusion
Dating cannot be mastered with just a good profile, and a good profile doesn’t mean you’ve mastered a dating app. Without a decent opening line, an ability to converse like a normal human being and the grace to ask to meet someone IRL without sounding like a serial killer, daters will struggle to get anywhere online. But in order to get to any of those points, a good profile is a necessity, and for Liam, Dan and Holly, theirs can be dramatically – and expertly – improved. And while it may not guarantee that they’ll find the person of their dreams, it is a good, and perhaps the only, place to start. CLICK HERE TO SEE A VIDEO PRESENTATION
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2020.08.17 17:07 READMYSHIT The Creep Dive Episode Guide

Date Title Cassie Sophie Jen Sidebars and guest stars Creep of the Week
1 12/12/2018 Canoe Believe It?? Alan Rickman never read Harry Potter John Darwin faked his own death in a canoeing accident Seamus on ket with Mary McAleese (Twitter thread)
2 12/12/2018 GP-OH My God who is SHE Samantha Azzopardi pays a visit to Ireland. One of many as she scammed her way around the world An outtake from This is Going to Hurt: Secret Diaries of a Junior Doctor. Woman eats placenta (or blood clots)
3 12/12/2018 A Tale Too Tragic Tania Head, woman who claimed to be a survivor of the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11 The Juggalos (Insane Clown Posse) Christians in disguise Reddit Guy meets the Devil. Black Mercedes Cassie reveals she used to be Born Again Christian. Jen's personal Angel, Happy Acres
4 11/01/2019 The American Dream or The American Peen What Ever Happened To: Lorena and John Wayne Bobbit. (Wife cuts off husband's dick after he raped her) Swiss cheese Pervert. Man would like a cheesey wank
5 11/01/2019 11 Lies and Counting Warrior Eli. Epic catfish story of a supermom who turned out to be teenager, Emily Dear Sinead O'Connor and Prince had a pillow fight. Prince takes it too far Jen first reveals she was a catfish/troll
6 11/01/2019 A 17 Year Old Mystery Solved by Sleuths Mystery of Lyle Stevik's suicide solved by DNA Doe Testing Ray's Death Documentary (admission of murder). Lady of the Dunes
7 25/01/2019 A Story Blown Wildy Out of Proportion Jimi Heselden segways into the afterlife. Rebba Burger maimed and killed from a whipped cream thing Lambo. Weird radio book review, hosted by Gay Byrne in which Gery Ryan allegedly kills a lamb A man fashions a flying saucer with helium balloons and sends his son flying off for attention
8 01/02/2019 An Unholy Hypocrite, The Dungarvan Angel of Death Travis the Troubled Teen David Matheson, former gay conversion therapist, comes out as gay Fr Michael Kennedy fakes an AIDS epidemic in Waterford. Gets the attention of Princess Diana Travis, the chimp and Creep Dive mascot (a classic!)
9 09/02/2019 The Greatest Writer that Never Was James Frey, A Million Little Pieces (fake memoir) Story of JT LeRoy (racoon penis) Dan Mallory (fake memoir)
10 15/02/2019 The Randy Mr. Hands How Joe Manuella Found Love, Robert De Niro impersonator Mr. Hands! Guy gets killed from bottoming a horse Ellen Coyne and Cassie become friends via Twitter
11 22/02/2019 The Curious Case of Crack Addict Jimmy(part 1) The Girl Who Predicted Her Own Death Tickling endurance competitions funded my some omnipotent millionaire (who obviously has a fetish)
12 22/02/2019 The Curious Case of Crack Addict Jimmy (part 2) That time the Washington Post had a Pulitzer briefly. Janet Cooke and the 8 year old heroin addict
13 01/03/2019 The Fine Line Between Exoneration and Execution The story of Cameron Todd Willingham (a innocent man sentenced to death) Pissing and menstrating in the Stuart era (not Victorian, Jen)
14 08/03/2019 The MSN Murder Mystery Momo: Online Suicide Game MSN Murder. Girl kill herself after online bullying, turns out to be a neighbourhood mom Elizabeth and Theranos
15 15/03/2019 Who Let the Cat Out The Noid, the Domino's mascot that led to a murder Mary Bale: Cat in the Wheelie Bin Topsy the Elephant: Tesla vs Edison
16 22/03/2019 Oyster Man, A Salacious Sausage Fest and A Con Confidence (Creep Live #1) Nicholas Barclay AKA Frédéric Bourdin (missing child imposter) Armin Meiwes, German cannibal Oyster Man (Dublin creep!)
17 01/04/2019 A Haunted Hormonal Teen, A Slender Bender, A Mother Love to Death (Creep Live #2) Dee Dee Blanchard murder by her daughter, seemingly incapacitated, Gypsy Rose. Enfield Haunting, poltergeist in a North London council house Slenderman possee
18 05/04/2019 Who is Timmothy Pitzen?? Disappearance and reappearance (???) of Timmoth Pitzen Christine Chubbuck, suicide on live TV Ford has a horn for Edison
19 12/04/2019 The Beautiful Lie Florida Man, pancake guy Belle Gibson, noted scammer Coco the Gorilla: artist, photographer and communicator
20 21/04/2019 There's a Catfish in the Water Lincoln Lewis catfish, Lydia Abdelmalek The most awkward book club of all time Girl with no vainga gets impreganted from a knife
21 27/04/2019 A Sasquatch, A Tinder Date With a Cannibal and The Life and Ruin of Anna Nicole Smith The Anna Nicole Smith Story Sasquatch Origin Story
22 04/05/2019 Friends From The College Cult Larry Ray: Creepy Dad Cult Whatever Happened to Baby Tyler?
23 11/05/2019 A Love As Deep As The Sea, A Shared Twinsanity and Better The Catfish You Know? Sabina & Ursula: Murderous Swedish Twins Suicide of Megan Meier Some people really love dolphins
24 18/05/2019 The Cat’s Out of The Bag for The Internet’s Maddest Man A Catfish Love Triangle (that ends in murder) The Luka Magnotta Story Jeremy Kyle
25 27/05/2019 The Secret Russian ‘Super Army’ and A Fertility Doctor Who Took Things Into His Own Hands Dr. Cline, fertility doctor who takes matters into his own hands Russian science experiment to create super humans (humanzee) Belle Gibson update (ep. 19)
26 01/06/2019 Larry and The Lawnchair of Dreams The eponymous Larry, an instant classic creep (that is not creepy at all) Moby
27 07/06/2019 The World’s Worst Baby Snatcher and The Ill-Prepared Cannibal Another Catfish Love Triangle and Baby Heist Isa Sagawa: A Cannibal in Paris
28 15/06/2019 Why You Should Never Let Granny Do The Ouija Board Story of Anna Delvy, epic swindler Ouija Board Murder Whale dick tentacle and the guy who honours a dead murderer (Twitter Thread)
29 21/06/2019 A Dead Man, A Cipher, a Mystery Somerton Man: Mystery Australian Man and an Undeciphered Code Ariel Castro kidnappings Delivery Man Haunts Cabin Groom kids on brides dress
30 28/06/2019 It’s Never Plain Sailing The Disappearance of Brian Swanson (into another dimension?) #blueball A shark buffet Juliane Koepcke, the sole survivor of a plane crash that left her stranded in the Amazon Rainforest Boris Johnson
31 07/07/2019 The Lost Family, The Last Eunuch and the Lust for the High Life Tromp Family Road Trip. Australian family collectively lose their mind A Philanthropic Couple with a Secret in the Attic Sun Yaoting; the last Eunuch of China.
32 11/07/2019 A Trio of Clones, Coercion and Courtship A shitty first-date The McDonald's-Nude Heist The phenomenon of a group of self cloning crayfish
33 19/07/2019 Brain-Eating Zombies, The Boy Who Tried to Blow Up Bjork and a Beary Bad Idea Story of Björk's would-be assassin Timothy Treadwell: Bear Enthusiast Furries and Brain eating zombie fungus Grunting man in a gimp suit
34 27/07/2019 A Priceless Love Affair and Something of a Pickle Debbie Montgomery Johnson get defrauded millions in an online dating scam Peeing and pooping in space. Creepy nudes escalates quick (to murder)
35 04/08/2019 Jen’s Solo Ghost Story the tale of Dear David, a creepy child ghost who has been haunting the hallways of illustrator Adam Ellis Horse Girl
36 11/08/2019 When a Dream Life Turns Into a Weird and Creepy Nightmare Dream House goes sour with letters from an ominous writer called, The Watcher Mystery Stripper Jen has the inside scoop on Area 51 Scout's arrival! Woof Canadian Serial Killers
37 18/08/2019 The Hero Who Didn't Know His Name and a Real Life Dr. WHO?? Story of Jean-Claude Romand: Murderer and Imposter Creep Dine With Me: Megan and Hazel. The story of Steven Stayner
38 01/09/2019 Don't Bookmark Your Murder Tips and a Real Life Mission Impossible How to not get away with murder (Daniel Brophy) Personal creep with creepy neighbour and a never ending gift exchange A missionary who get murdered by the Sentinelese
39 09/09/2019 A Twist in The Tale, The Devil Down Under and A Wild Slide A Catfish With a Happy Ending Mysterious Death of Phoebe Handsjuk Deal the Devil Downunder,Story of Michael Atkins and Matthew Leveson
40 13/09/2019 Move Over Travis, There’s a Bad Badger in Town and The Sad Tale of The Sorry Cannibals Caroline Calloway content! Alive: The reluctant cannibals The antics of Stoffel the honey badger
41 20/09/2019 British Fairies, Irish Con Artists and Asian Angels Cassie's Personal Creep and Misadventure in Berlin (featuring Moe) An Irish Kidnapping The Cottingley Fairy Hoax
42 28/09/2019 When a loving Christian family inadvertently adopt a 22 year old sociopath with violent tendencies The tale of Natalia Grace, a Ukrainian Orphan with dwarfism #childdeception Helen Bailey: Author who penned her own death Jacob Barnett, Child Prodigy
43 06/10/2019 The Girl...Who Laughed...As A Man Got Sewn Into The Body of a Horse Story of Nathan Carman and a Sunken Boat A Runaway Bride Countess Elizabeth Báthory, World worst female serial killer? Carl Beach, Richard Madely
44 15/10/2019 What Happens When You Exorcise a Mild Mannered Michael? (Creep Live #3) Ireland's Own Bermuda Triangle An exorcism gone wrong Goose on the Loose! A goose named Andy
45 21/10/2019 A Guest Ghost Story and The Haunted Spots of Dublin Dutch Family in a Basement (and assorted ghost stories) Creep Dine With Me: Fainche. A Dublin 8 Haunting
46 26/10/2019 The Tragedy of the Triplets A tragic tale of triplets and a social experiment Haunted Nazi Dummy
47 31/10/2019 A Catfish Convict, Dawn of The Ed and a Goat Gets Giddy for Piss - It’s our Halloween Spooktacular! Rape Ads, Fake Sonograms, and a Catfisher’s Web of Lies Ed Gein, his mother and the inspiration for Psycho A goat with a penchant for piss (human piss)
48 12/11/2019 An Amuse Bouche of Creep Catch Ups AND The Human Baby Zoo Update on Belle Gibson (ep. 19) Canadian Quintuplets (Human Baby Zoo) Update on Ukrainian Orphan (ep. 42) T.I. (obsessed with daughter's hymen)
49 17/11/2019 The Greatest No-Show-Man and the Mighty Meaty Murderer Threatin, metal band on world tour (with no audience but great hair) Joe Metheny: a mighty meaty murder #serialkiller Donegal Creeps caught climbing a hospital to ouija
50 25/11/2019 Oh No! Where Did Moe Go? Moe Davis: Another chimp fiasco. Travis 2.0 (ep. 8)
51 03/12/2019 A Haunted Galway Baby, a Mystery Man in Sligo and The Spine Tingling Story of the Sleepless Russians (Creep Live #4) Peter Bergmann, a mystery man in Sligo reminiscent of Somerton Man (ep. 29) #blueball Haunted Galway baby #haunted Russian sleep deprivation experiment (this is pretty harrowing) Harry meets the Creeps for the first time Dick Dicker: Unabomber meets Mr. Hands
52 06/12/2019 A Life Heavy on Lies, Light on Lols Jennifer Pan, a Vietnamese-Canadian teen kills her parents (well one of them) Dave, the randy duck
53 17/12/2019 The Woman Who Accidentally Solved Her Own Mystery Disappearance Netty Nance accidently solves her own kidnapping (spoiler: it was her own "mother") Carlos Mariotti and a novel idea to save his mangled hand (spoiler: it doesn't work) Public Universal Friend. First recorded case of non-binary person? Mommy blogger swindles Shauna Sex Síopa!
54 05/01/2020 The Cannibal Cop and A January Assortment of Creeps Cassie tricks a girl into think she's going to Disney Gilberto Valle, the cannibal cop, caught via chat room #cannibal People used to post their kids around! Jeffrey Epstein. German ladies who set a zoo ablaze and killed 20 primates
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2020.08.12 18:36 VoidKiller826 Fantomex #3: The Old Guard.

Fantomex

Issue Three: The Old Guard
Saga 1, Arc 2: All Roads Lead to Rome.
Written by u/VoidKiller826
Edited by u/dwright5252 & u/DarkLordJurasus
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Glossary:
“Hello.” Normal speech.
‘Hello.’ Internal speech.
“Hello.” EVA speaking.
[Hello.] Radio/Phone speaking.
{Hello.} TV Speaking.
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The Cobalt – Somewhere high in the air in Europe:
The Cobalt flew through the clouds at a very slow speed, heading deeper into Italian airspace. The plane was an old CL-215 aircraft, made to travel long distances back in the day and to land either on land or sea. Because of its size, it could house at least twenty people inside it, but it would also mean slow travel speed.
As of now, the Cobalt is possibly the only one of its kind in existence in this day and age. An old plane living off its last rides in the next few months, and that is a kinder assessment on its longevity.
Checking on his equipment, Fantomex made sure to make the necessary precautions this time around. After the Manchester job five days ago, he was not looking forward to repeating the same mistake.
"So let me get this straight… you accepted this job because this Caprice chick might know about your past? I know you want to know where you are from but this woman didn't even bother to tell you who she works for, or if she does work with anyone we should be worried about."
Fantomex let out a small laugh as he continued fixing his weapons, with the help from EVA who guided him in the repairs. Addressing the pilot who he just gave him the short version of how he ended up taking a flight to Rome with a new job. "I am a mercenary my dear Cobalt, even I don't trust her, despite her uncanny beauty and very upfront personality. I will still honor our agreement, and if she does try to double-cross me, well… I hope I won't miss my shot," explained Fantomex to the pilot of the Cobalt. "And you are right, I usually don't trust her kind, especially one who keeps their secrets so close to the chest."
"Sounds like my ex-wife," said the pilot and scoffed, turning his head to address Fantomex, he continued, "Then how did she convince you? She could be lying through her teeth about knowing-"
"She knows about EVA," said Fantomex, the sound of the silver gun he was fixing clicked inside the plane. "That's all the convincing I need to know she is not lying."
Only two people in Fantomex's life knew about EVA. For all most people know, EVA is just someone who he talks to in his 'ear', but it's much more complicated than that. EVA is not just someone in his ear, EVA is a part of him, and he is like her. For all he knows, EVA is somewhere housed in this body, where? Thatwass the mystery he has yet to find an answer to.
She functioned like a computer within him, scanning and giving him necessary Intel whenever he went to a job.
And only two people knew about her true nature.
One of them being Ralph Robert, aka the pilot of the Cobalt, which shares his namesake in the mercenary world. He had been a friend for the past three years after Fantomex left Symkaria to start his solo career as a mercenary and to find more about his past, benefiting from his assistance in preparing the Mercenary in white with contracts, safe houses, and weapons. In return, Fantomex gave him a share of his earnings after finishing a job.
A simple deal they both benefited from.
Ralph's eyes widened at this revelation. Unsure how to respond to Fantomex, he turned back and guided the Cobalt through the air in silence while Fantomex readied himself.
After some time had passed, Fantomex felt the plane shaking. Turning to the window nearby, he stared out into the nightly horizon ahead.
"Rome, a city that aged like fine wine," Fantomex noted. "’All Roads Lead to Rome’ as the old saying goes."
The bright lights, the old buildings still standing hundreds of years later gave it a sense of longevity, eternalness, and refinement you couldn't find anywhere in the world. It was once the center of the world for an empire long gone, but its work was still felt to this day, a legacy in the form of monuments left behind in many places.
"According to some statistics, the city is experiencing a low number of tourists due to the lack of care being given to their roads and buildings," EVA noted internally, which caused Fantomex to raise an eyebrow at this new information. "The official report has yet to comment on the reasoning behind the decline, but unofficially, some believe it to be due to the Maggia influence in diverging the city funds to their own."
"The Maggia? That's odd, I half-expected them to actually support their city, not exploit it."
From the stories he had heard, the Maggia Family that made Rome their home was the Nefaria Family, and the patriarch of the family was a known Catholic who supports the Church, never doing any of the Maggia work in the city.
But it seems things have changed for the Old Count of Nefaria, or someone else has changed it.
"The Maggia presence has dwindled in the last decade. Barely making ends meet anywhere in the world. But now their new crops are making moves like that giant in Manchester… this change and exploitation must have brought in for a reason…"
"Possibly. But remember, we are here to take the files Caprice wants from the Maggia, not solve Rome's economic problems."
"Hmm… if you think about it, with your abilities with numbers we might help solve them, and in turn, make us rich with the city."
"That is not how fixing an economy works, and it would be exploitive to the system and our abilities, Charlie."
"I know…" Fantomex sighed, leaning against the chair as he stared into the city ahead through the window. "Just thinking over our future if we managed to finally answer the lifelong question about where we come from."
The city horizon became further away as the plane flew through the air, slowly replaced by a smaller village just on the outskirts of the city. He leaned forward, focusing his eyes through the clouds before they dissipated, finally revealing what looked like a giant castle resting by the edge of a mountainside near the sea.
Nefaria Castle.
"ETA three minutes, brother," Cobalt announced, turning to Fantomex to address the mercenary. "You ready?"
Fantomex stood up from his seat and walked to the tail end of the plane, setting his white coat aside for this mission, seeing it more of a hindrance for a stealth job such as this.
Wearing a wingsuit provided to him along with a set of goggles to cover his exposed eyes, he stood near the backdoor of the plane as it slowly opened, letting the heavy wind wash into the Cobalt. The intense wind shook his clothes and weapons.
A red light nearby brightened up, signaling him to get ready.
"Don't make a mess down there, C!" shouted Cobalt from the cockpit. "Like that job in Moscow!"
"No promises."
The red light turned green, signaling Fantomex to dive out.
"EVA, start scanning."
Taking a deep breath, he ran forward and leaped out of the plane.
Diving headfirst toward the castle below.
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The howling wind thundered at him, ripples of it streaming over his wingsuit, plucking at the thin material. Fantomex understood skydivers feeling alive in situations like these, the exhilarating feeling of diving from a plane might sound insane to any normal person.
But a little preparation and being foolish can make anyone feel alive in these events.
He dove closer to Nefaria Castle, concealed away in Rome's outskirts by the sea with architecture clearly during the days of the Italian renaissance. Tall towers and walls made out of concrete. Possibly created as a fort to watch the sea, now used for Maggia control.
Such beauty, reduced to be a hub of the ungrateful mobsters.
"You are getting closer, prepare to land," EVA said, bringing back to his mission.
Fantomex changed altitude, reconfiguring himself in the punishing airflow for a better position. At first, he dove like a human missile, but now he extended his arms and bent his legs. Trying to fight through the wind with punishing results. You can’t fight wind if you are free falling at this speed and height.
His eyes glowed green as EVA scanned the distance between him and the nearest tower, which EVA highlighted to be empty.
"Pull the wingsuit cord in… four… three… two… one….Pull."
On command, Fantomex pulled on the rope by his side, and webbings snapped open like sails between his arms and legs. Finally using the wind to his advantage, he slowed his descent and gave himself some control as he guided his body toward the tower. All the while he silently flew over some unaware Maggia goons patrolling the castle grounds.
Thanks to EVA's scans, he was able to time his landing perfectly feet first on top of the tower. The battlements were empty, Maggia clearly aren't up to date with the basics of actual security in the place.
Using EVA, Fantomex scanned the courtyard down below. His blue eyes glowing green as EVA started scanning the entire area surrounding them, from the number of Maggia patrolling to even the structural strength of the castle walls. Most of the goons patrolling were dressed in suits, fine ones at that.
"Ten Maggia officers are currently patrolling the courtyard. Three more standing guard by the walls. All carrying Austrian made weapons," EVA explained, highlighting every Maggia she could find in the area. "Manufacturing company seems to be a new one according to its product number."
"And the Maggia are using it for guard duty, quite a waste for some fine weaponry." Fantomex looked around the courtyard for an entrance before EVA spoke up.
"I have also found in my scanning that the Maggia installed a ventilation system behind its walls. Although I need to scan it closely to be able to measure the size for you to fit in."
"Ah yes… the wonderful habit of using a ventilation shaft in sneaking. The greatest security flaw in the world." He noted. Even though the Nefaria family lived in a castle, they lived in modern times, so they needed some clean air, ridding the structure of smoke and other unhealthy pollution these mobsters might subjugate themselves in their free time.
He looked back into the courtyard one last time and took a step back. Already better prepared than last time.
'Go in… locate the files… get out… simple…'
Fantomex took a deep breath, stepping back a few feet into the nearest shadow, and disappeared.
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"Hey, did you see the Madam earlier? She doesn't look happy."
The older Maggia mobster turned to his partner, a young man who recently joined the family as the two patrolled through the hallway of the castle, furnished with red carpet, decorations of various tables, and electric chandeliers across the long hallway. Even though the Maggia lived in the castle, they made sure to modernize it for their benefits and authentic looks.
"She is never happy ever since the Old Count gave her more responsibilities," said the older Maggia to the young man in Italian. "Now she is getting pissed over anything that sneezes at her direction."
"I heard it had something to do in England with Hammerhead screwing a deal over there."
"That big head freak?" the older mobster scoffed, almost disgusted at being reminded by the name. "Damn American shows up and all of a sudden is made a boss with his own family, now is messing up with important deals."
The young man raised an eyebrow, not expecting to hear such venom from the older mobster about Hammerhead. "I know he is not from around here but he is Maggia, he did a lot when he came here a few months ago."
"You mean he and the Madam made things more complicated these past few months." The older mobster corrected the young man. "Look, I get you are still new blood, but in the Maggia we have something called respecting tradition. But ever since those two got to be Capos they did nothing but made stupid changes around here, bringing in outsiders for deals like those folks from Africa or those mercs they brought in for protection. 20 years in the family, and what do we get? Getting ordered by that merc in an onesie who just showed up."
"Really? They seem alright, even played a card game with their boss."
"Yeah, I am sure he is a nice guy. But don't come crying to me when you see nothing but mercs walking around and no Maggia brothers to talk to." The older mobster sighed, his old school mentality getting the better of him. "Well… at least they let us patrol the place while they go off getting a battery or something…"
The two Maggia continued on their patrol, with the older one complaining while the other listened in. They turned the next corner, leaving the hallway empty.
A few minutes of silence passed, with only the faint sounds of Maggia goons talking outside and the light bulbs on the chandeliers flickering high above.
That silence was disrupted, with the sound of a pin being loosened where a metal grate was located on the ceiling. After a few more clicks, a pair of fingers came out of the opening, pushing it forward but making sure it did not fall.
Fantomex's head popped out of the air vent to survey the hallway, seeing that there was no one around. His fingers were still on the openings of the grate, making sure he stayed clinging into something as he slowly put it back.
The sound of a click echoed around the hallway, and on cue he dropped down, landing to a crouch position. Thankfully without any sound of thud echoing the hallway.
"No Maggia patrolmen in the current area," EVA noted and Fantomex stood up. "All cameras near you are hacked to make sure you don't appear on their screen."
"We should thank modern Maggia for having the newest tech and internet," Fantomex commented and brought out his weapon, an MP5 with a silencer attachment. He began to stealthily traverse through the castle, all the while making sure no one noticed him. "EVA, guide me to the office."
"Turn right at the next corner." Answered EVA. "According to the schematics, the Maggia Don's office will be at the end of the hallway; it has an odd high electrical current compared to everywhere else."
"Understood."
Just as EVA said, the office was right ahead of him after he turned the next corner. They were able to scan some schematics of the castle when they passed the security, which also allowed them to hack through their security system and making it easier for him to walk in the hallway without any fear of being spotted by a camera.
Turning the door handle, Fantomex noted it was locked. Fishing out a lockpick he kept hidden in his sleeves, he proceeded to unlock the door, smiling to himself after hearing the click.
Entering the room and closing the door gently, Fantomex surveyed the room around him, making sure if there were not any unwanted eyes that might see him. Thankfully it was empty.
The room was a sizable office, with a large desk, two sofas in front of it, a coffee table, and a fireplace. The walls were made out of wood, a contrast to the marble walls the rest of the castle had.
"Someone seemed to have taste in designing this room, but I would have expected more computers after you said it had so much electricity going on," Fantomex complimented as he walked to the desk, eyeing the computer that was on top of it.
"According to local reports, The Nefaria patriarch personally designed the room when he took control of the family thirty years ago."
"They actually made a report about a Maggia Don in their local paper?"
"They have. Luchino Nefaria is loved by the locals for his philanthropy work in helping the city. Even with his Maggia ties that everyone knows."
"Nothing like helping the city for people to forget you are a part of one of the largest crime syndicates in the world." Fantomex pressed on the keyboard, which responded, opening the screen to him with a password needed. "EVA, time to do your magic."
He removed his gloves, revealing his rather pale hands and put his index finger on the keyboard. Green veins began to form around the skin surface. They began to wrap themselves inside the device and reach into the entire computer. The screen was replaced from the rather boring looking sign-in page into a green screen with the face of a woman at the center of it.
"Remote hacking activated. Please remain ten feet to not interrupt the connection." Said EVA, her face moving at every word she uttered on screen.
"Beautiful as ever, EVA," noted Fantomex as he put his gloves back on, his eyes glowing green. Thankfully he did not have to worry about leaving any fingerprints, as he had come to find out no one has any record about him except in Symkaria, and even there you had to be gutsy to look further into it.
"Do I look for anything that matches Caprice's request or look through all of it?"
"Will it take longer to copy all of them?" he asked, remembering the file that Caprice gave him with specific data and files that he couldn't understand but EVA was able to easily deduce what Caprice needs to exactly, which was probably the point when the red-head woman gave him the file.
"Depending on the file sizes and if they are useful for your knowledge. Three minutes at the minimum."
"Hmm… then focus on whatever Caprice needs. Tell me if you find anything useful I might want to look into."
Taking a step back for EVA to do her work, Fantomex, out of curiosity, started to look around the room as he waited for his partner to finish up. Noticing something by the wooden walls, Fantomex walked up to it and stared at it.
It was a picture of a man in his thirties seated on a long chair. He had a solemn look on his face, which made one wonder if he was angry when he took this photo. On his lap was a small baby girl dressed in a white dress, and by his side was a woman in what he guessed to be in her twenties, hands on the man's shoulder, smiling wide.
'The Nefaria family… the real family.' The older man was presumably The Count in his younger years. He looked healthy, long black hair and beard. His wife by his side and the Count's daughter on his lap. 'Possibly happier times…'
"Hey, EVA. Can you multitask a few seconds for me?"
"Of course, what do you request?"
"What can you tell me about the rest of the Nefaria family? We know the Count is loved, but what of his wife and children?"
"Searching…. According to local reports, his wife passed away twenty years ago due to cancer. After that, Luchino Nefaria became secluded to his castle, never appearing in public."
"That long ago? Then this photo must have been taken before that," noted Fantomex as he stared at the photo. His eyes went to the smiling women and then back to the solemn Count. Was this photo taken before she was diagnosed? Is the Count solemn because of it? That was a question he might not get an answer to any time soon, but it's clear her passing affected him. "How about the children?"
"Only one daughter. She has a record in the criminal database with several charges but was released thanks to her father's connections and is currently rumored to be running the Nefaria family due to the Count's lack of activity," said EVA, searching up the Nefaria head's history and looking through his entire computer at the same time. "Contrast to her father, Giuletta Nefaria is not well-liked locally. Going against her father's wishes in philanthropy work and making openly criminal activities in the city. Even her men don't show respect to her compared to her father because of what she is doing to the family."
"Hmm… I would have chalked it up as a family thing. But seeing this photo now and hearing about the old Count makes one wonder why his daughter is doing everything in her power to change the Maggia…"
If there is one thing he could say was 'redeemable' about the Maggia, it was their old school mentality and respect they showed, even if they were criminals who dealt with weapons and other vices.
But now in recent times, they were no different from any irredeemable criminal organization, wanting to be the next Wilson Fisk of the world.
'The old guard will always be replaced… but do we forget their teachings? For the sake of power? Slaves to it? All to make a point that they are better?' Fantomex noticed the frame was leaning a bit, so out of respect, he decided to fix it, aligning it straight.
"Hmm… interesting."
Fantomex turned away from the photo to turn to the computer, EVA's voice bringing him back to reality. "Interesting? Did you find anything related to what Caprice wants?"
"No, I already downloaded the names she wanted in her file. But I found something unrelated and you might find it curious."
"Oh?" He raised an eyebrow. Intrigued, he nodded. "Ok, bring it into my vision."
One of the ways EVA could show Fantomex specific files was through his eyes.
"What am I looking at?" asked Fantomex as he stared at a data sheet that detailed different products and numbers from all over the world, each numbered oddly.
"The datasheet you are currently looking at details several shipments coming from different parts of the world," began EVA, highlighting the sheet and sorting it based on dates. Each of the products had the letter 'M' and a number which started from one and reached up to a hundred. "The Maggia saved these in a secure folder, and it is the only one that had any encryption among them. Even the files that Caprice wanted did not have this type of protection."
That was interesting; they must have been important files if they made even the usually literal-minded EVA be curious And for it to be in the Maggia Don’s personal computer, it must mean something to the current leader.
"Maybe they are weapons? Maggia has been in the gun business for decades now, and with the changes made with the family the Count's daughter must be dealing with dangerous weapons that even her father wouldn't dare to deal in."
"Usually yes. But I found their weapons sheet and this one is sorted far differently than the others." EVA sorted the sheet base on the country. "See each of them from the first countries that come to your view."
America. A set of ten. All coming from New York. He went further and saw some from Europe, which included England, Italy, and Switzerland.
But what shocked him was the further he went, the more different countries he saw.
"Japan? Africa? Argentina? I never knew Maggia has any business in those countries."
"They don't. But they recently made dealings outside of their usual areas. Including these places where they titled it as 'Unmarked.'"
"Unmarked? Why?"
"Places they don't want anyone to know of their existence, so some of these products are not traceable like the rest. And there are many of them."
What kind of places do the Maggia have deals in that they don't put on their personal records like the others? Is it somewhere that even they fear of mentioning? Or business deals where they have kept it a secret even in their own records? Whatever their reasoning behind it, the Maggia had been doing deals that goes beyond their usual trade.
"Do they have any names of the buyers? Or do the Maggia plan on keeping it?"
"Some they are keeping. But the rest, and there are a lot, they plan on selling to someone who they named as 'Snakehead'. Location is yet to be determined where it will take place."
"Snakehead? An odd name to call someone unless they have a literal head that looks like a snake. Which would be fascinating to look at now that I think about it," Fantomex cited as he gave the file a quick read before closing it. "Have they sold the product?"
"No, almost all of the products are still in their possession, kept in the castle basement in the largest space according to the map," answered EVA before she realized his intention. "Do you also plan on stealing it? I don't think Cobalt's plane can carry this large of an amount."
Fantomex chuckled, images of Cobalt being pissed at the mercenary for bringing more weight into his precious plane entering his mind. "While I do love to witness his reaction, I do not plan on stealing anything. I plan on destroying whatever the Count's daughter has down there."
He heard EVA sighing as she turned off her link, accepting his choice knowing it would be difficult to convince him otherwise. “I remember telling you we are not here to solve Rome’s problems.”
“I know, but there is beauty in curiosity, we are simply making sure the city is safe from these mobsters.”
"Curiosity can also lead to destruction. And one of these days you'll get yourself killed, Charlie," she complained.
"Well… when that happens, you can say I told you so." He smiled behind his mask. "Lead me to the basement, EVA. We have weapons to destroy and possibly collect."
Even with his attempt to lighten the mood, underneath Fantomex's heart felt heavy. These numbers and products that the Maggia were keeping felt… off. All from different countries, in a short period? There has to be more to this than simple military-grade artillery they plan on selling to some warlord or criminals.
Too many products. All coming from everywhere in the world. Housed in one place.
'Just what are you planning…? Giuletta Nefaria…'
He exited and closed the door behind him, bringing the room into silence.
*******************************************
Underneath Nefaria Castle:
It was dark.
It was always dark.
Only occasionally did light ever come to this place.
The smell of something rotten covered the room. Something that would make anyone puke.
A small cough echoed around the darkness.
A child's cough.
Another sound echoed, that of someone trying to soothe a child.
Another sound echoed, that of someone banging into steel.
Another sound echoed, that of a woman crying.
Another sound echoed, that something banging against the wall.
Another…
And another…
And another…
"It will be ok…" a voice was heard, trying to soothe a crying child. "Everything will be ok…"
It continued. Nothing but voices, noises, and cries echoing in the darkness.
*************************************************
Fantomex, Saga 1, Arc 2.
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2020.08.02 19:07 iamthomasmiller01 Leicester Airport Taxis: Various aspects and benefits to be considered for travelling to destination.

If you need to travel to Leicester airport or to any other place, you require a reliable taxi service, which could drop off to your destination on time. Taxi service in Leicester has evolved to bring about a new revolution in local transport services such that it has become the best choice for travelling to the required destination.
Hailing a Leicester Airport Taxi Service, waiting for the right bus, or taking the train while you are on a foreign location can be a fun and exciting adventure at first; but is eventually going to be tiresome at some point. That is why it is rather a necessity for every traveler to look for someone to drive them around the city and other destination stops. If you are a group of more than two going on a business or pleasure trip in this city, hiring a reliable airport transfer service is going to be the smartest move you are going to make. Airport transfer in Manchester reassures you that you are going to have the best assistance for your transportation. This is because transportation services offered by airports are associated with the finest transport services there is. Apart from that, they give you the guarantee that you are going to arrive at your destinations safely.
Due to evolution of online technology ,where internet is handy through mobile applications at any moment of time, finding and booking a taxi in Leicester is not difficult at all. If you are around Leicester and would like to hire a taxicab, the easiest option is to search online.Many reputed professional and reliable services are available around the Leicester to book a reputed fleet to your destination. Almost all reputed taxi companies in Leicester has online booking platform for easy and fast online booking with comfort and peace of mind.
The new revolution and popularity of taxi services has gone through huge and rapid growth, the reason may be the various issues with public transportation. As public transportation has so many stop stations, increasing rush, long routes for covering as much area as possible, so people generally prefer to rent cabs. Getting on with a professional taxi service in Leicester is extremely beneficial for all those people who are new to the area, as this would make their commute around the city way easier. These reasons have flourished the rental, taxi business. There are so many companies providing the facility of rental, taxis around Leicester.
But this increasing number also have resulted in some fraudulent and weak companies to pop up. So when it comes to choosing one of the right taxi services for yourself, you have to follow some important factors. Herein below are some of the points that you must note in this regard:
Advance Online Research: Make sure you do some research online to see which taxi Service Company would provide you the best, safe and reliable services. There are several local mini cab and taxi services available in the Leicester city that operates their booking system through online portals. Go through their portals and look for the reviews and ratings, facilities available and also compare the rates. Checking and comparing the services and pricing online can definitely help you get one of the best taxi services around the city.
Advance planning: If your travel schedule is not sudden and you have some time to make your planning, do not wait for the last minute, plan in advance. Preparing in advance can certainly save you from a lot of tensions and last-minute hassles. You would also be able to get some discounts and comparatively lesser prices, especially when your travel dates coincide with the high traffic holidays.
So it can be said that most of the reputed private Leicester taxi services are the perfect choice for you. They are known to provide very fast and speedy travel option to the customers without any inconvenience and obstacles.
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2020.07.20 22:19 MCDenDawg I Just Realised I'm A Bad Gay

So Imma little skinny white boy from a very white and straight town. First lad out for about a year and a half all that jazz. So it was kinda bad sure but I knew it wasn't the worst. I came out, people knew and didn't care and life just kinda went on. I kissed lads at college and starting entering the dating scene all usual stuff. I never really felt part of the community though, I didn't know any gay people aside from previous flirting attempts I was too embarrassed to revisit and in my large school I still felt kinda separate from the community and I was fine with that I guess all seemed good to me. I hung out with straight couples and didn't really talk about homosexuality as if it were any different to heterosexuality. So only in the context of sex and relationships. It was a conscious effort not to be TOO camp or one of THOSE gays. Just live as my friends did and not be some noisy annoying queer. Looking back they wouldn't a stopped me but I just was how it was. So cut to 2/3 years later, I don't watch gay TikTok all my friends are either straight or Bi women in relationships with men. And again this is fine, but I come across this youtube video by Rowan Ellis called "Can you be too gay?" and I'm thinking "Well I guess maybe it is a bit annoying some of them, the community is a bit much". To clarify not outright hate but just tired of the noise and camp and stereotypes that the community brings with it. Stereotypes I was consciously fighting for years. So they video plays and I learn about respectability politics, the theory of when someone from a minority acts and behaves in a certain way to appease/ be respectable for the majority. And it was like a switch "omg I do that, I'm not camp that's for sure but that doesn't mean I have to be this". I realise I know nothing about queer history, struggles other than my own. Even the laws the community is fighting against. I started watching more queer content other than the odd movie and started learning. It's a lot of information, my god. And I'm now following more gay TikTok and being less annoyed by it. To give a specific example my friend once tried to set me up with a TikToker called Ben Wardle (they went to school together), and I wasn't thrilled at the time, he was camp and loud and something I was trying so hard not to be or even be associated with. I used to HATE his content just something I would cringe at for no reason other than me being perceived that way made me uncomfortable. I love it now. It's fun it's jokes it's energy. He makes me chuckle and I think good on ya for existing. So a couple of TikToks later this one comes up about masc for masc and white twink gays have done nothing for the community, and I realise I haven't done much at all. In my defence I never knew the community, it was somewhere else doing its thing and it was never somewhere in reach. I played Dota and watched youtube, the internet never felt like a place to communicate and there wasn't much homosexuality in person till 2 years ago. So that's a brief look at me, I've now joined the subreddit and want to be more active than reactive. Even if that is just to explain to my straight friends some queer problem that I am annoyed about. It's a strange feeling like I was limited in this way because I never felt oppressed, just separate so to feel the effects of my sexuality in this way is a little confusing but hey-ho. Glad to be here with yous and here's to feeling like one of you lot instead of a gay lad in manchester doing his own thing and minding his own business. Your fight is my fight now glad to be here. If your still here thanks for reading a pretty long and boring story about someone whos barely felt oppressed or disadvantaged because of the work you've done, so thanks for that. xx
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2020.07.08 17:34 ALiddleBiddle Powerful Friends, Fake Photos, and a Mystery Company: Who Is Epstein ‘Madam’ Ghislaine Maxwell? (The Daily Beast)

Powerful Friends, Fake Photos, and a Mystery Company: Who Is Epstein ‘Madam’ Ghislaine Maxwell?
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THE CO-CONSPIRATOR
Ghislaine Maxwell has no shortage of skeletons in her closet.
Rachel Olding
Updated Jul. 02, 2020 5:49PM ET / Published Jul. 02, 2020 1:21PM ET
Who is Ghislaine Maxwell?
She’s a 58-year-old British heiress, born in France as the youngest of nine children to Elizabeth and Robert Maxwell, and raised in a 53-room mansion in Oxford. Robert Maxwell, a publishing tycoon who once served in the British Parliament, was a charismatic but shady businessman who died in mysterious circumstances in 1991 when he disappeared from the deck of his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, anchored off the Canary Islands. Family observers previously told The Daily Beast that it was not strange that Ghislaine and some of her sisters were drawn to larger-than-life, strange men. “They attach themselves to bizarre psychopaths like their father,” one researcher said.
Ghislaine Maxwell has a degree from Oxford University, speaks four languages, and is a trained private helicopter pilot. She was involved in social clubs at Oxford and perhaps not surprisingly given her upbringing, has moved in high society circles her whole life. She has homes in several countries but largely resided in her London townhouse during her time with Epstein.
What was her relationship to Jeffrey Epstein?
Maxwell was close to her father and, after his death, she moved to the United States. She lived in a friend’s apartment overlooking Central Park, worked at a luxury real estate company, and quickly ingratiated herself with the high-society set in New York. She met Epstein at a party in the '90s when he was a wealthy but exceptionally private financier who didn’t yet move in high-society circles. While they initially dated, their relationship has been murkier over the years and she has been described as his live-in companion, his best friend, his assistant—and his “madam.” She is credited with introducing Epstein to the New York social scene and notable figures like Prince Andrew, a member of the British royal family.
Maxwell continued to socialize after Epstein served a 13-month sentence in Florida in 2008 for soliciting a minor for prostitution but the pair were not seen together as often.
What has she been charged with today?
Maxwell has been charged with six offenses relating to the transportation and enticement of minors to engage in illegal sex acts. It relates to three underage victims and covers the period 1994 to 1997. She is accused of recruiting and grooming girls who traveled to Epstein’s homes in New York and New Mexico, and Maxwell’s London home for erotic massages that turned into sexual abuse. She allegedly procured the girls and built a rapport by taking them shopping and asking about their lives. She then slowly normalized sexual abuse by undressing in front of them, discussing sexual topics, and being present when they gave Epstein massages, an 18-page indictment says. She is also accused of participating in some of the massages and sexual abuse. She and Epstein often gave victims expensive travel and education opportunities, leaving them feeling indebted to the pair.
Maxwell is also charged with two counts of perjury for allegedly lying during a 2016 deposition in which she said she’d never participated in any massages and she’d wasn’t aware of Epstein’s persistent sexual abuse. Epstein was charged with several sexual abuse and sex trafficking offenses last year but committed suicide in his jail cell after being denied bond.
Is this the first time we have heard these allegations?
No. Maxwell is facing three civil lawsuits by women who accused her of helping Epstein procure girls who were sexually assaulted and trafficked out to other pedophiles on multiple continents. She is accused of participating in some of the sexual abuse in the form of threesomes with Epstein and underage girls.
Most notably, Virginia Giuffre accused Epstein and Maxwell of keeping her as a sex slave when she was 16 and loaning her out to high-powered men—including one of Maxwell’s high-society connections, Prince Andrew, who went on to become a close Epstein pal—for erotic massages and sex. Maxwell denied the allegations and counter-sued Giuffre for defamation with the case settled in 2017 on confidential terms. Despite a photo existing of him and Giuffre in Maxwell’s London townhouse, Prince Andrew has denied knowing Giuffre and maintained that he knew nothing about his close friend Epstein’s sexual abuse.
Another victim, Jennifer Araoz, is suing both Maxwell and Epstein’s estate over repeated sexual abuse in the early 2000s that culminated in a brutal rape in Epstein’s New York mansion. She alleges that Maxwell and Epstein’s employees recruited her from outside her high school and introduced her to the billionaire pedophile under the guise of helping her fledgling musical career. Maxwell helped to identify and hire underage girls, schedule appointments for erotic massages, and later intimidate witnesses into not disclosing abuse, the lawsuit says.
Two other victims have suits against Maxwell and Epstein’s estates: an unidentified 13-year-old known only as Jane Doe; and Annie Farmer, who was flown out to Epstein’s New Mexico ranch in the '90s and accuses the pair of rape, battery, and false imprisonment. Sarah Ransome, who accused Maxwell of hiring her to give massages to Epstein and threatening to harm her if she didn’t comply, settled a suit against Maxwell and Epstein’s estates.
Why has it taken so long to arrest her?
Maxwell has been in hiding since Epstein’s arrest last year, refusing to accept service of the civil lawsuits and only communicating with courts through her lawyers, who said they didn’t know where she was living. She filed a lawsuit in Superior Court in the U.S. Virgin Islands in March this year seeking money from Epstein’s estate to cover legal and security costs, claiming Epstein had promised to always look after her financially.
Rumors have swirled in the past year, placing Maxwell in Brazil, Paris, and rural France. Last August, it appeared she was living in Manchester by the Sea, Massachusetts, in the home of a possible boyfriend, Scott Borgerson, CEO of CargoMetrics, a hedge fund firm involved in maritime data analytics. Locals said they’d seen her walking her dog on the beach and going by the name “G.” Later that month, she was supposedly photographed eating at an In-N-Out in Los Angeles but the photos, which ran in the New York Post, were later proven to have been staged by her friend, the lawyer attorney Leah Saffian.
Southern District of New York prosecutors said Thursday they had been keeping tabs on her all along and she had “slithered away to a gorgeous property in New Hampshire” where she was still living in luxury. In a court filing, prosecutors said Maxwell had moved at least twice recently, had switched her primary phone number (which she registered under the name “G Max”) and email address, and had ordered packages under different shipping names. The 156-acre property in Bradford, New Hampshire, was paid for with cash in December using a “carefully anonymized LLC,” the filing says.
What kind of high-society connections did she have?
Maxwell’s longstanding friendship with Prince Andrew has perhaps caused the most ructions. She introduced him to Guiffre during a London trip, leading the British royal to be dogged for years by accusations of underage sex. In a car-crash interview with the BBC, Prince Andrew said he couldn’t recall ever meeting Guiffre and said he could disprove her allegations of a disturbingly sweaty sexual encounter because he was unable to sweat. The royal was a frequent guest at Epstein’s private island, where staff claim they saw him engaging in sex acts with underage girls.
Maxwell had close connections to the Clinton family, too. She attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2010, appeared at a dinner at the Clinton White House with Epstein in 1993, and participated in the Clinton Global Initiative as recently as 2013, through her oceanic non-profit the TerraMar Project, according to the Initiative’s website. Bill Clinton’s name appeared on flight logs for Epstein’s private plane—and witnesses placed him on the private island—but he has denied any involvement in illegal acts. Similarly, Chelsea Clinton maintains she had no idea about Maxwell’s alleged sexual grooming.
What does she do for a living?
She has had numerous streams of income over the years, from running social clubs at Oxford to working for a Madison Avenue real estate company to living off a trust fund set up by her father. Maxwell launched a bizarre, and now defunct, oceanic environmental non-profit called TerraMar in 2012 that advocated for the protection of oceans. The FBI had reportedly been investigating whether TerraMar was a shell company. The New York Post reported that Maxwell pumped $283,429 worth of loans through the company between 2012 and 2017, and gave out just $874 in grants.
What was her family like?
The Maxwell family has been described as having more skeletons in the closet than a haunted house. After Robert’s mysterious death in 1991, rumors abounded that he was an Israeli spy. It also emerged that his companies were in massive debt and he had plundered hundreds of millions of dollars from the pension fund of one of his newspapers. Two of his sons were implicated in the corporate theft but later cleared. Two of her sisters, twins Isabel and Christine, were internet pioneers who started the early search engine Magellan. Her brother-in-law Al Seckel, who gave TED talks on optical illusions, reportedly fell to his death in 2015 after he was exposed as a swindler in Los Angeles. Robert Maxwell’s parents and siblings were killed during the Holocaust, inspiring his French Protestant wife, Elisabeth, to become a renowned Holocaust scholar.
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2020.06.14 01:57 Lu8888 BRICK WALL - GALICIA SPAIN.

Hello everyone 👋 I've just found this reddit group and I love it, it's fascinating. I've decided to contribute as I am doing my own head in with this family tree lark, I've hit the mother of brick walls!
Long story short my father was born in Ferrol, Galicia, Spain in 1952 and given to an orphanage for babies (casa cuna, Ferrol) before heading over to el Colegio De Calvo Sotelo in A Coruña city where he stayed until 1969. His mother and father had him out of wedlock with his father being 24 years his mother's senior - a nightmare in those days in such a small town and she was sent to Brazil, his father never assumed paternity and was a chef in the Navy (stayed close to her family though which is weird). Also relevant, I'm also half English and live in Manchester, UK (dad moved here after a travelling stint around the globe and met my mum) so I only have the internet (and the council of Ferrol's email that came back with nothing) to research this. I can't go to the churches or town halls of this Spanish town unfortunately.
ANYWAY, we do know both my father's parents names (plus we found immigration records of his mother) and then we have his mother's parents names, plus her five sisters, we even have both of her grandfather's names.....this is partly due to the fact that we do have some family that dad found (half siblings in Brazil + an aunty and a cousin in Ferrol, also the online archives of Galicia) but his father, it's like he never existed. We have his details from older relatives (on my grandmother's side though) but he doesn't exist in archives. I actually also have the date he died (and town), I've spent hours on Spanish geneology sites, galician newspaper archives, the usual british/american geneology sites, the civil registry, navy archives from Ferrol and the rest of Galicia, I even have the hospital in which he died - there is nothing!!! Nada!! I have been able to find old newspaper articles about every other family member (on my grandmother's side) including death notices.....but nothingggg on my grandfather! Argh, the less I find the more obsessed I become 😂 I know I may need to access these files (if they exist) in Ferrol's Church archives, but his name isn't unique, as far as Hispanic names go it's fairly popular so it's driving me mad that I've found nothing, we only have his death date and place because my dad received a notification of his passing via mail in 1977 (he actually briefly met his father twice in his lifetime). But I'd really like to know my father's grandparents on his dad's side. My dad never knew, nobody knew!
If ANYBODY knows of any secret way to find the name Antonio Estevez Perez who died in Ferrol on 23/01/1977 and was a chef in the navy of Ferrol, please make yourself known and put me out of my misery 😂😂 I don't mind having to search for the other relatives, I've got three generations above my dad all on my grandmothers side, it'll do for now, but working with zilch on my grandfather's side.
Is anyone researching Ferrol/A Coruña/Galicia? ARE YOU OK?! 😂
Nightmare.
On a serious note though, any tips would be appreciated ♥️
Stay safe everyone and sorry for the longwinded rant (and thanks so much for your time).
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2020.06.12 06:49 DarrenColchester Lecture: The Backrooms

Hey folks, before I post the bulk of my creative writing attempt here, I wanted to explain a bit. The other day I accidentally stumbled upon /thebackrooms and after reading the original creation I became inspired to try and write something up. If you can't tell by the writing, it was kind of inspired by the SCP and Volguns lectures on YouTube, I posted it to the backrooms but didn't get a whole lot of responses, so I decided to share this before I end up shutting down this account. If anyone wants to expand upon this or create some offical content, please be my guest, I present my lecture on The Backrooms.
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, my name is Darren Colchester, I graduated top of my class at Miskatonic University, I run a private paranormal investigation business and I occasionally work with The Foundation. I will be your lecturer for today's discussion.
We will be taking a look at an anomalous event known as "The Backrooms". Within the internet there are online communities dedicated to a genre of writing known as "creepypasta".
Creepypasta are defined as short horror stories or images, designed with the intent of scaring it's viewers. More commonly though, they are often poorly written and designed, subject to ridicule by the larger community.
Occasionally though, a story or article will be presented to the community that is met with so much traction and fanfare, the energy from the community itself is enough to give it life.
Just as Gods are powered by the faith of their worshipers, these online articles are giving birth to new anomalous creatures and events as they gain support from these online communities.
For example, if any of you are part of the inner ghost hunting community or work within The Institute, you should be fully aware of a newer manifestation known as "slenders", some of the most aggressive entities we have encountered to date. This is, of course, all thanks to the Slenderman creepypasta.
There are earlier recorded instances of anomalous creation by shared thought, such as the Pigwoman of Manchester Square. When captured and interviewed by The Foundation, she had no recollection of her childhood, parents, relatives, nothing. She would become increasingly agitated when interviewed on these topics.
Earlier instances of collective creation were less common until the dawn of the internet. In the case of the Pigwoman, it was due to several reputable news sources printing articles based on a rumor, which then captured the imagination of the masses. People began writing in to report their own visual confirmations of the Pigwoman, one man even wrote to The Times newspaper to submit a marriage proposal to her.
The Backrooms happen to be one such anomalous event. It began as a very simple creepypasta, the idea was people would accidentally find themselves in a pocket dimension after "noclipping" out of our own reality, a term used by video game enthusiasts to describe a form of cheating that allows players to move in any direction, bypassing any obstructions in their way.
On May 12th, 2019, an anonymous 4chan user started a thread in the site's paranormal board /x/ inviting users to post pictures of "disquieting images" that just feel "off." The user posted a picture of a yellow room at an off-center angle. A user replied with a narrative about the picture, writing:
"If you're not careful and you noclip out of reality in the wrong areas, you'll end up in the Backrooms, where it's nothing but the stink of old moist carpet, the madness of mono-yellow, the endless background noise of fluorescent lights at maximum hum-buzz, and approximately six hundred million square miles of randomly segmented empty rooms to be trapped in, God save you if you hear something wandering around nearby, because it sure as hell has heard you."
What started off as a joke or meme began to evolve at a expanded rate, showing up on various social media platforms and mobile applications.
Since then, the community surrounding this specific creepypasta has exploded. There are now entire websites, social media groups, wiki articles and even video games dedicated to the Backrooms.
As more and more people have joined in on the collective narrative of the Backrooms, it began to take on a reality of it's own. We are unsure of the exact moment of it's anomalous evolution.
It is estimated that every year thousands of people fall victim to the Backroom's dangerous reality bending power. Very few people, as little as one percent of the victims of the Backrooms survive and more often than not they are so mentally scarred from the event that they can provide very little pertinent information on it.
In cases of recovered victims, we review the time, place, local meteorological conditions and even the victim's own personal life to get a better understanding to find, locate and even trigger these events.
Even more frustrating, every entrance to this dimension has unique requirements that require extremely precise conditions in order to be activated, so much so that current theory implies that every instance was designed for each person specifically, suggesting that someone else is intentionally designing these entry points on a person to person basis. How or why is currently unknown.
We have sent in our own personal to investigate these instances in an attempt to better understand exactly what the Backrooms are and what their true intent is. Recovery of these teams are less than five percent. Remote surveillance equipment has a high rate of failure as well.
This is becoming especially difficult given the current popularity of the topic. As more people join and add to the story and lore of the Backrooms, so does the event grow and evolve.
Orginally the Backrooms was nothing more than a series of long abandoned rooms with the implication of something lurking within it's halls. The danger of this pocket space has grown exponentially larger with every new addition from the ever increasing community.
To date we have documented over three dozen distinct creatures in the Backrooms, all originating from creative writing from people obsessively tied to the Backroom's community. Interestingly enough, it has been noted that creatures that are later rejected from the community cease to exist in any capacity.
Additionally, more floors have been added to the original on a semi regular basis, it has been implied that over a thousand different "levels" of the Backrooms now exist. These rooms often defy time and space, ranging from abandoned malls, train depots and even the insides of a colossal creature. Keeping track of these levels have proven exceptionally difficult as any published ones that fail to capture the imagination of the community will not take shape.
Rumors are currently circulating that some individual(s), possibly part of another organization(s) have been using the Backrooms as a means of fast travel to quickly transverse the globe undetected. It is currently unknown how or why, but popular theory includes disposal of bodies, as well as human and drug trafficking.
It has been suggested that the original author of the creepypasta posted their works with the direct intent of generating a large scale societal memetic event to generate the growth of the Backrooms. Unfortunately any attempts at tracking the original poster of the article have been inconclusive .
In an attempt to slow the evolution of the Backrooms, we have implanted agents within the community; "shit posting", defacing wiki articles, directly attacking the community or even out right tracking down and arresting offending authors have been implemented. Some attempts have proven more successful than others.
Further, there had been attempts at artificially making the backrooms more hospitable in a way to make transversing it more safe. What we have discovered is that any attempts to alter the dimension that do not happen organically will not take effect.
Currently there is no known way to completely scrub the knowledge of the Backrooms from the internet, instead all efforts are being put towards documenting and slowing down it's growth.
Thank you for taking the time today to attend my lecture, additional details and resources are readily avaible via the ASDS database on the campus network.
ASDS - anomalous safety data sheets
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2020.06.11 14:30 DarrenColchester Lecture

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, my name is Darren Colchester, I graduated top of my class at Miskatonic University, I run a private paranormal investigation business and I occasionally work with The Foundation. I will be your lecturer for today's discussion.
We will be taking a look at an anomalous event known as "The Backrooms". Within the internet there are online communities dedicated to a genre of writing known as "creepypasta".
Creepypasta are defined as short horror stories or images, designed with the intent of scaring it's viewers. More commonly though, they are often poorly written and designed, subject to ridicule by the larger community.
Occasionally though, a story or article will be presented to the community that is met with so much traction and fanfare, the energy from the community itself is enough to give it life.
Just as Gods are powered by the faith of their worshipers, these online articles are giving birth to new anomalous creatures and events as they gain support from these online communities.
For example, if any of you are part of the inner ghost hunting community or work within The Institute, you should be fully aware of a newer manifestation known as "slenders", some of the most aggressive entities we have encountered to date. This is, of course, all thanks to the Slenderman creepypasta.
There are earlier recorded instances of anomalous creation by shared thought, such as the Pigwoman of Manchester Square. When captured and interviewed by The Foundation, she had no recollection of her childhood, parents, relatives, nothing. She would become increasingly agitated when interviewed on these topics. She ultimately proved to be of no threat in any capacity and was later released back in to society.
Earlier instances of collective creation were less common until the dawn of the internet. In the case of the Pigwoman, it was due to several reputable news sources printing articles based on a rumor, which then captured the imagination of the masses. People began writing in to report their own visual confirmations of the Pigwoman, one man even wrote to The Times newspaper to submit a marriage proposal to her.
The Backrooms happen to be one such anomalous event. It began as a very simple creepypasta, the idea was people would accidentally find themselves in a pocket dimension after "noclipping" out of our own reality, a term used by video game enthusiasts to describe a form of cheating that allows players to move in any direction, bypassing any obstructions in their way.
On May 12th, 2019, an anonymous 4chan user started a thread in the site's paranormal board /x/ inviting users to post pictures of "disquieting images" that just feel "off." The user posted a picture of a yellow room at an off-center angle. A user replied with a narrative about the picture, writing:
"If you're not careful and you noclip out of reality in the wrong areas, you'll end up in the Backrooms, where it's nothing but the stink of old moist carpet, the madness of mono-yellow, the endless background noise of fluorescent lights at maximum hum-buzz, and approximately six hundred million square miles of randomly segmented empty rooms to be trapped in, God save you if you hear something wandering around nearby, because it sure as hell has heard you."
What started off as a joke or meme began to evolve at a expanded rate, showing up on various social media platforms and mobile applications.
Since then, the community surrounding this specific creepypasta has exploded. There are now entire websites, social media groups, wiki articles and even video games dedicated to the Backrooms.
As more and more people have joined in on the collective narrative of the Backrooms, it began to take on a reality of it's own. We are unsure of the exact moment of it's anomalous evolution.
It is estimated that every year thousands of people fall victim to the Backroom's dangerous reality bending power. Very few people, as little as one percent of the victims of the Backrooms survive and more often than not they are so mentally scarred from the event that they can provide very little pertinent information on it.
In cases of recovered victims, we review the time, place, local meteorological conditions and even the victim's own personal life to get a better understanding to find, locate and even trigger these events.
Even more frustrating, every entrance to this dimension has unique requirements that require extremely precise conditions in order to be activated, so much so that current theory implies that every instance was designed for each person specifically, suggesting that someone else is intentionally designing these entry points on a person to person basis. How or why is currently unknown.
We have sent in our own personal to investigate these instances in an attempt to better understand exactly what the Backrooms are and what their true intent is. Recovery of these teams are less than five percent. Remote surveillance equipment has a high rate of failure as well.
This is becoming especially difficult given the current popularity of the topic. As more people join and add to the story and lore of the Backrooms, so does the event grow and evolve.
Orginally the Backrooms was nothing more than a series of long abandoned rooms with the implication of something lurking within it's halls. The danger of this pocket space has grown exponentially larger with every new addition from the ever increasing community.
To date we have documented over three dozen distinct creatures in the Backrooms, all originating from creative writing from people obsessively tied to the Backroom's community. Interestingly enough, it has been noted that creatures that are later rejected from the community cease to exist in any capacity.
Additionally, more floors have been added to the original on a semi regular basis, it has been implied that over a thousand different "levels" of the Backrooms now exist. These rooms obviously defy time and space, ranging from abandoned malls, train depots and even the insides of a colossal creature. Keeping track of these levels have proven exceptionally difficult as any published ones that fail to capture the imagination of the community will not take shape.
Rumors are currently circulating that some individual(s), possibly part of another organization(s) have been using the Backrooms as a means of fast travel to quickly transverse the globe undetected. It is currently unknown how or why, but popular theory includes disposal of bodies, as well as human and drug trafficking.
It has been suggested that the original author of the creepypasta posted their works with the direct intent of generating a large scale societal memetic event to generate the growth of the Backrooms. Unfortunately any attempts at tracking the original poster of the article have been inconclusive .
In an attempt to slow the evolution of the Backrooms, we have implanted agents within the community; "shit posting", defacing wiki articles, directly attacking the community or even out right tracking down and arresting offending authors have been implemented. Some attempts have proven more successful than others.
Further, there had been attempts at artificially making the backrooms more hospitable in a way to make transversing it more safe. What we have discovered is that any attempts to alter the dimension that do not happen organically will not take effect.
Currently there is no known way to completely scrub the knowledge of the Backrooms from the internet, instead all efforts are being put towards documenting and slowing down it's growth.
Thank you for taking the time today to attend my lecture, additional details and resources are readily avaible via the ASDS database on the campus network.
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2020.06.09 23:27 fractalfay This is something that sense cannot take: Recap of BT90D Tell-All, part 1 AND 2

Welcome to the 90DF tell-all, where bitchy friends are summoned to pontificate on a romance that never happened, the invisibility potion finally worked on Geoffrey, Darcey cosplays as Donatella Versace, David is introduced amidst an assortment of juices, Ed is sweaty in his own temperature-controlled home, and Tom is sipping champagne from a flute in case we forgot he’s pretentious. Let’s dialog, shall we?
Shaun: Welcome to the tell all, and thank my lucky pandemic that I get to be far away from these people. Hi Yolanda, how are you?
Yolanda: I was in a coma!
Shaun: I was expecting “fine” or “good,” but I have a wow or two to spare. Did you have COVID-19?
Yolanda: No, I got this in December, and that’s the 12th month, not the 19th.
Steph: I believe I have dibs on the illness subplot, YOU NARCISSIST.
Yolanda: What? Williams, is that you? (Shakes phone.) How is Manchester?
Shaun: Where do I begin?
Avery: Journey.
Ash: Yes, okay. Let’s journey.
Avery: Red flags. Process.
Shaun: Can I use “knife in the heart” or is that too much?
Ash: Knife in the heart, yes. Now I will make a soulful expression.
Avery: You lied to my face!
Shaun: How did he lie?
Avery: I went on a diet. I don’t believe he was ever truly keto.
Ash: I took a picture of my lemon ginger drink!
Avery: I TOLD YOU LEMON HAS CARBS.
Lisa: This is petty, and I KNOW petty.
Avery: Sit down 70% attractive. Dude is a liar.
Ash: I have percentages, like you stole 110% of my energy, which left me without the strength to buy flowers for my next girlfriend, okay.
Lisa: Don’t sweat the small stuff. Sweat the big stuff, like a heart-shaped emoji on instagram.
Shaun: Is he still the best sex, because I’ve got some DMs to drop…
Ash: Yes, we should return to this.
Avery: Um. Yes.
Shaun: Interesting. Let’s put a pin in that.
Ash: I was going to ask for her hand. But I didn’t, so I’ll just add this here and hope it makes her feel bad.
Shaun: Yolanda?
Yolanda: Present!
Shaun: Just checking. Ed, how are you?
Ed: I’m way ahead of you, Shaun.
Shaun: What? We’ve brought in a douche translator, since Rose is not fluent in douche, and that’s Ed’s only language. Okay Ed, go ahead.
Ed: Shaun, this is a cell phone.
David: I have one of those.
Ed: This is a cell phone, Shaun.
Shaun: Okay.
Translator: Rose, that is a cell phone being held by a douchebag.
Ed: She wanted me back, and for me to come see her. I was wiling to give up my life and my daughter to go back to the fill-a-peens.
Rose: He always forget I dump him.
Ed: Again, do you see this cell phone? YOU WERE WITH A WOMAN.
Rose: Yes, we were broken up. Dating someone else is what happen next.
Ed: A-HA! I KNEW IT! And a WOMAN. No offense or anything, but A WOMAN.
Translator: He has a problem with you being bisexual, and problems in general.
Stephanie: I mean, I really am bisexual, but go ahead and make it all about you, Rose, SELFISH! EGOTISTICAL!
Ed: LOOK AT THIS PHONE STEPHANIE.
Danielle: You need a binder for evidence. I’m just saying.
Rose: He wanted a second chance.
Ed: This is absurd. It’s preposterous that a man about town such as myself would be reduced to longing for an attractive 20-something way out of my league.
Shaun: Let’s bring Ed’s daughter Tiffany out so we can see if she’s as detached from reality as her father.
Tiffany: Hi Shaun, I really am. My dad just said he would ditch me for Rose (again) on national television. Can we pretend I’m not 30?
Shaun: Sure, why not?
Ed: If I squeeze my cheeks my eyes squirt water, and then sympathies happen.
Translator: Ed apologizes by making people feel sorry for him so they protect him like a child.
Ed: I’ve learned my lesson.
Translator: No he hasn’t.
Shaun: Tiffany, do you have any questions for Rose? $50 bonus if you can phrase it like a pointless accusation.
Tiffany: Yes, I’d like to inexplicably attack Rose now.
Rose: Well...
Tiffany: Don’t take a tone with me!
Rose: What?
Tiffany: Ooo looks like I struck a nerve.
Rose: What?
Translator: I’m sorry Rose, they are douching so fast I can barely keep up.
Tiffany: But you LIED about SO MANY THINGS. You hid so much!
Rose: He set a trap for me. I tell him I’m sad, he tries to get me to take my clothes off for money on a video call. Your dad is creep.
Tiffany: Can we not talk about his history with sexual harassment?
Ed: That’s ridiculous, which you can tell by the photos on my wall.
Shaun: Should I bring up the STD test?
Paul: You rang?
Shaun: Um. Now the hairy legs thing?
Ed: I live in Southern California, where I’m surrounded by beautiful, wealthy women who don’t want to have sex with me. I notice their legs a lot when I’m clinging to their ankles.
Rose: You embarrass me and hurt me. You are always liar.
Ed: I’ll always love you and Prince.
Angela: That’s another lie. LYING AGIN!
Shaun: Can we get the translator to explain?
Translator: Yes, what Ed means is that he wants to have sex with Rose again, and thinks that could happen if he acknowledges her child in an empty way.
Darcey: I’m really feeling what Rose is going through, because I’ve dated Jesse and Tom and been myself all my life.
Tom: What was that, fatty?
Darcey: Ed, you’ve got to stop chipping away at her.
Ed: I’m going to try and make it about her lying, because no one saw this season!
Darcey: You lied about wanting kids, you asshole.
Avery: Let me open up my book of reflective listening. Ed, have you struggled to communicate with people all your life?
Ed: Yes, but it’s everyone else.
Avery: Can you hold these two electrodes in your hands? This is called “auditing” and is a really important part of —
Darcey: I have a magic barrette that will grant you three wishes.
Rose: Yes, I will take that please.
Ed: I lied about my height. I’m going to pretend that’s it.
Baby Girl Lisa: TAG ME IN TAG ME IN! I’m coming for you, Ed.
Big Ed: I’m too dumb to hide!
BGL: You used that poor soul. You’ve cut your own throat with American women.
Ed: Was that a throat joke?
Tom: I’ve got a fat joke.
BGL: There isn’t an American woman alive you’re going to be dating. I’ve got 50 mens who want to marry me and 300 Yahoo boys on hold.
Usman: Yes, I have heard these numbers.
Ed: I’m going to deflect and make this about Lisa having unprotected sex.
Shaun: I’m asleep.
BGL: LISTEN TO ME, ED. Let me tell you something, before any hotdog gets tossed down my hallway I check what is tucked in the bun!
Tom: I’m drunk!
David: Ed didn’t go over there to get married. He went over there for ass.
Ed: Don’t you fact at me!
Shaun: Let’s move on. This may come as a surprise to some of our viewers at home, but there is some debate over whether Williams is British.
Everyone: No there isn’t.
Yolanda: He sounds like Usman! I didn’t know Usman was from Manchester! Do you know Williams?
Shaun: What were you thinking when you weren’t thinking?
Yolanda: Thinking went right into my DMs on the Instagram.
David: Social media is a scam. Only trust paid apps. I’m proof of that.
Shaun: Cara, are you okay?
Cara: That’s a nope from me, Shaun.
Shaun: Lets bring in Scott Hunter, PI, to say nothing of substance in cop voice.
Scott Hunter, PI: Yes, what we have here is a computer. Now a computer is used to log in to what Al Gore calls “the internet.” We believe the perp accessed said internet from an Internet café, which is something that is found in The Europe.
David: Man, PIs are always a waste of money.
Usman: I don’t believe this man is from Nigeria, and by that I mean not from my tribe. Definitely a different tribe. That isn’t mine, or any other tribes in Nigeria.
PI: Are you also a PI? Yolanda does not appear to have access to maps. In my world we call maps a clue. These can also be found on the internet, which is inside this computer.
BGL: Look, I am an expert. I’ve been interneting since America Online interrupted phone calls. I installed it with a series of floppy disks. Then I turned the crank and held an antennae out the window, and if lightning struck at just the right time, boom, internet.
Shaun: Have you been scammed in the past, Lisa?
Lisa: No, only in the present.
Shaun: Well Yolanda, can we have one more shot of you looking at your phone in confusion?
Yolanda: Well I’ll try to call him, but sometimes someone answers and asks why I’m calling information, and I say where’s Williams, because aren’t they supposed to know?
Usman: Let’s see if my phone is going to ring. Yes, I am killing it with the zingers tonight! Yolanda, this is something that sense cannot take. How can someone be playing you this much? And how much did I miss out on by not playing you instead?
Yolanda: IT’S RINGING! I miss him, I do.
Cara: Goddammit.
Yolanda: I didn’t give him any money…that you know about.
Cara: Power of attorney is a beautiful thing.
Shaun: Let’s takes a look at Erika and Stephanie’s shared misery.
Steph: All I know is that it isn’t my fault.
Erika: It wasn’t about the dating ap on my phone, it was about Steph’s insecurities and the shit I found on HER phone. You cut that part, you filthy editors.
Steph: That was instagram, so it doesn’t count.
Erika: Oh, it was business? It was NETWORKING? REALLY?
Steph: Whoa, I had to pause for a second to recalibrate my bullshit. This is still your fault, somehow.
Shaun: Let’s bring out Erika’s friend Jessica for some reason.
Jessica: Erika is a free spirit, and Steph is a constipated one.
Shaun: Let’s bring out Heather and Sanders, since they pretended to play tennis with Stephanie once.
Heather: ‘Scuse me, esCUSE me, yeah, I been drunking since eleven-teen, okay? BITCH. I’m who Stephanie hangs out with on Friday night when she says she’s eating cheese. So I KNOW THINGS.
Erika: I’m sure you’re used to yelling, since you’re Steph’s only friend.
Jessica: Heather let her talk. WTF is this segment about?
Heather: I’M ITALIAN! Dunna be tryin to NO! NO!
Erika: There are all these things I want to say, and I can’t say them because this drunk twat is yelling through my segment.
Sanders: Well, you can tell by my pursed lips that I’m the saucy friend. It seems like you have a lot of secrets, ERIKA.
Erika: What are my secretes?
Sanders: Oh, there’s a lot SWEETIE. How much am I living my best Mean Girls life right now?
Heather: We should start a burn book and OF COURSE MY NAME IS HEATHER! (Wine spill.)
Erika: You were not there. I gave that bitch my phone.
Sanders: I am still fighting for relevancy.
Shaun: Steph, people call you a fake bisexual.
Heather: I can’t get my face to lie right!
Steph: I get attacked for not being a certain way, and let me talk around this question.
Jessica: That’s nice, but I think everyone thinks that you’re not bisexual because it seems like you’re not into girls. You didn’t give anything a chance.
Steph: Well, I hate to bring up my illness…
Shaun: No you don’t.
Erika: When you’re dating someone, you usually act like you’re dating someone.
Stephanie: No, I was distant for your benefit.
Erika: What?
Heather: Get em off me, get em OFF ME! Fucking BEES GODDAMMIT IT.
Erika: Every time Steph, you put it back on me.
Heather: QUARANTINE AND WINE. CALLING IT FOR MY BAND NAME.
Steph: You’re scary. This is my baby voice. Doesn’t it make me sound blameless?
Ed: Trying calling yourself a dummy.
Steph: No, I’m not bad. Giggle.
Shaun: Did you see why Erika was confused about who you are?
Steph: No. She thought I was like my videos, but if you go to my youtube channel and watch more of my videos, THEN you’ll know who I am.
Translator: What Stephanie is saying is that she feels guilty for leading Erika on, and is looking for a way it’s Erika’s fault so she doesn’t have to look at herself.
Steph: WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE YOUR SERVICES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED THANK YOU!
Translator: Steph is used to yelling over opinions that don’t match her own.
Steph: WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?
Translator: I’m afraid I’m an unstoppable force, Stephanie. My douche translation doesn’t stop until the douchebaggery does. Clearly I’ll be here all day.
Steph: I thought Erika watched more of my videos than she had. Have I mentioned my youtube channel? And what’s my dad’s name?
Erika: What?
Steph: YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO INTERVIEW ME AND KNOW I WANTED TO BE INTERVIEWED GAWD!
Erika: Do you see what I’ve been through?
Steph: You’re a very self-centered person, because your self doesn’t revolve around me. Egotistical, narcissistic, yes I’ve got names and I don’t know why you’re the enemy all of a sudden GAWD!
Erika: My time was wasted. Every bisexual woman in three countries is dropping into my DMs though, so that helps. Steph, can you take responsibility for anything?
Steph: No. Just go to my youtube channel this Friday to tune into my talk about narcissism. Or go to my instagram, where you’ll find my performative donation receipt so people can see how fucking humble I am! JUST GO TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL SHAUN IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU NARCISSIST.
Shaun: Whoa, what just happened here?
Tom: Hello.
Raina: I’ll be the drunk friend now. I have signs.
Tom: I was serious about Darcey. She should know this by that text message on her birthday. Darcey: I have a revenge body EVERY REUNION.
Shaun: Why did you meet her in New York?
Tom: I wanted to see if something was still there.
Translator: He wanted to have sex with Darcey one more time. Shannon was the love of his life for exactly three weeks.
Raina: You know what I think about that? Check out this vomit emoji I’m now holding in front of my face.
Everyone: Can we have some of these to use at home? She’s got to have an Etsy…
Lisa: This makes me angry for some reason.
Shaun: Raina, is there any way we could prominently feature you in an upcoming season?
Raina: I’ll hold up both of my emoji masks for that one.
Shaun: We have a letter from Shannon. She says she thought Tom was single.
Tom: GET AVERY OFF THE SCREEN. I AM SO DRAMATIC YOU WANT ME BACK FOR ANOTHER SEASON. SAY IT SHAUN.
Shaun: Yeah, I’m not gonna say that. Now that Tom has stormed off for what will probably be two minutes, tops, Avery what happened?
Avery: Tom hit on me, and sent selective parts of my text messages to Ash.
Darcey: Yeah, he’s definitely trying to get another season.
Steph: The number one thing that turns me off is —
Ed: Air?
Lisa: Other people?
Erika: Women?
David: Massage oil?
Usman: Lisa?
Tom: I’m back, smoking and edgy.
Ash: I lied to Avery about the screenshot thing, okay. I don’t know why she thinks I’m a liar. My feelings were hurt, so everything I did was fine. Avery: This fucking guy…
Tom: Don’t get a British man angry, or I swear I’ll wrinkle this coat and keep wearing it anyway. I didn’t really ask Avery out when I asked her out, but I also asked Stephanie out because she’s hot, and Lisa out because she’s very attractive. I will do anything for another season. Anything.
Yolanda: Well why didn’t you ask me out? I’m still waiting for Williams, but he might get jealous if I were dating Harry Potter. Can you fake a British accent?
Lisa: I’m going to stand up for Tom, because other fee-males are what’s unreasonable.
Shaun: Darcey, are you going to give Tom another season?
Darcey: Fuck that, I’m moving on to my next international affair. Spin that wheel of dicks and see where it lands!
Shaun: Now Lisa, your storyline happened.
Lisa: Me and Usman didn’t break up, we just blocked each other.
Shaun: Some people would call that a breakup.
Lisa: Some people are bullheaded Shaun, and also wrong.
Ed: I’m just being honest when I say —
Lisa: WTF do you know about honesty? And what the fuck do you know about PANTS Ed?
Ed: You treated him like a goat.
Lisa: You’re the goat!
Paul: I thought I was the GOAT? Oh, you mean like, a farm animal. Right. I’ll just run back into the jungle.
Usman: This porn star I was talking to had 2.3M followers. Of course I will repost anything she says.
Shaun: Did you say something about a 2nd wife?
Usman: Yes, I would like one please.
Lisa: I knew about this. Here in the US, this person doesn’t count.
Usman: If Lisa can’t have a child, I’ll add another wife, period.
Angela: But what if she can tote it and just needs ya egg?
Lisa: This is not happening.
Usman: Why do you have male strippers on facebook if my porn star is problem?
Lisa: No, I have them running through my feed so they can advertise through the states.
Everyone: What?
Avery: Can we go back to this second wife thing? You have a hard time with emojis but you’re communal with your husband’s penis?
Lisa: Well she’s not legally a wife and would live somewhere else, so.
Shaun: Wait — Usman, you’re not planning to live in the states?
Usman: No. Do you see what is happening in your country?
Shaun: David, you poor bastard.
David: Yeah.
Shaun: You’re in tears, but I’m still smiling.
Ed: I’ve never been on a paid website that isn’t porn.
David: She still uses the website. For networking. I know she’s not scamming me.
Ed: But I define your relationship, David.
David: I can easily afford it, so gargle my balls.
Shaun: Did you find her in a catalog though?
David: Yes, I’ve been shopping for a spouse in the Ukraine for a very long time.
Shaun: What happened with the iPhone?
David: She said it slid right out of her pocket and down a sewage drain. She furiously waved her hands over the grate for minutes, before numbly surrendering to this great loss.
Ed: Now I’m going to laugh at another man’s pain.
David: Shut up before I roll you down the lane and knock down every pin with these bowling trophy guns.
Tom: Is that a fat joke? Cause I’m here for the fat jokes.
David: No, it’s a hair joke, because with all that mayo he’s going to take a lubricated journey down the center of the lane. The cleaning fees are going to be astronomical, but I can afford it.
Steph: I’M THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO YELL EGOTISTICAL SELFISH PEOPLE!
Ed: I’m so compassionate!
David: Yeah, I’m leaving.
Shaun: Let’s randomly bring out Cesar, who everyone knows is an actor.
Cesar: Sure, I have opinions.
Erika: I couldn’t say anything I wanted to say, but you have time for Cesar?
David: Yeah, I talked to Maria for about 30 minutes about five years ago. I’ve talked to over a thousand women on that site. You see, that’s how chatting on the internet works.
Stephanie: Look, women over there are cold. I know, because I’m from over there.
David: We are not together right now, but we are still engaged. Right now is not the future, and also she still has my ring.
Cara: Can you ask my mom out? She doesn’t know how to use an iPhone, either.
Yolanda: Seven years? Are you saying I could talk to Williams for that long without ever seeing him?
Cara: No mom, NO!
Shaun: Thanks everyone for participating! I’m sure we’ll see most of you on a forthcoming season of Happily Ever After.
Thank you, Patreon supporters!
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2020.06.09 23:27 fractalfay This is something that sense cannot take: Recap of BT90D Tell All, Parts 1 AND 2

Welcome to the 90DF tell-all, where bitchy friends are summoned to pontificate on a romance that never happened, the invisibility potion finally worked on Geoffrey, Darcey cosplays as Donatella Versace, David is introduced amidst an assortment of juices, Ed is sweaty in his own temperature-controlled home, and Tom is sipping champagne from a flute in case we forgot he’s pretentious. Let’s dialog, shall we?
Shaun: Welcome to the tell all, and thank my lucky pandemic that I get to be far away from these people. Hi Yolanda, how are you?
Yolanda: I was in a coma!
Shaun: I was expecting “fine” or “good,” but I have a wow or two to spare. Did you have COVID-19?
Yolanda: No, I got this in December, and that’s the 12th month, not the 19th.
Steph: I believe I have dibs on the illness subplot, YOU NARCISSIST.
Yolanda: What? Williams, is that you? (Shakes phone.) How is Manchester?
Shaun: Where do I begin?
Avery: Journey.
Ash: Yes, okay. Let’s journey.
Avery: Red flags. Process.
Shaun: Can I use “knife in the heart” or is that too much?
Ash: Knife in the heart, yes. Now I will make a soulful expression.
Avery: You lied to my face!
Shaun: How did he lie?
Avery: I went on a diet. I don’t believe he was ever truly keto.
Ash: I took a picture of my lemon ginger drink!
Avery: I TOLD YOU LEMON HAS CARBS.
Lisa: This is petty, and I KNOW petty.
Avery: Sit down 70% attractive. Dude is a liar.
Ash: I have percentages, like you stole 110% of my energy, which left me without the strength to buy flowers for my next girlfriend, okay.
Lisa: Don’t sweat the small stuff. Sweat the big stuff, like a heart-shaped emoji on instagram.
Shaun: Is he still the best sex, because I’ve got some DMs to drop…
Ash: Yes, we should return to this.
Avery: Um. Yes.
Shaun: Interesting. Let’s put a pin in that.
Ash: I was going to ask for her hand. But I didn’t, so I’ll just add this here and hope it makes her feel bad.
Shaun: Yolanda?
Yolanda: Present!
Shaun: Just checking. Ed, how are you?
Ed: I’m way ahead of you, Shaun.
Shaun: What? We’ve brought in a douche translator, since Rose is not fluent in douche, and that’s Ed’s only language. Okay Ed, go ahead.
Ed: Shaun, this is a cell phone.
David: I have one of those.
Ed: This is a cell phone, Shaun.
Shaun: Okay.
Translator: Rose, that is a cell phone being held by a douchebag.
Ed: She wanted me back, and for me to come see her. I was wiling to give up my life and my daughter to go back to the fill-a-peens.
Rose: He always forget I dump him.
Ed: Again, do you see this cell phone? YOU WERE WITH A WOMAN.
Rose: Yes, we were broken up. Dating someone else is what happen next.
Ed: A-HA! I KNEW IT! And a WOMAN. No offense or anything, but A WOMAN.
Translator: He has a problem with you being bisexual, and problems in general.
Stephanie: I mean, I really am bisexual, but go ahead and make it all about you, Rose, SELFISH! EGOTISTICAL!
Ed: LOOK AT THIS PHONE STEPHANIE.
Danielle: You need a binder for evidence. I’m just saying.
Rose: He wanted a second chance.
Ed: This is absurd. It’s preposterous that a man about town such as myself would be reduced to longing for an attractive 20-something way out of my league.
Shaun: Let’s bring Ed’s daughter Tiffany out so we can see if she’s as detached from reality as her father.
Tiffany: Hi Shaun, I really am. My dad just said he would ditch me for Rose (again) on national television. Can we pretend I’m not 30?
Shaun: Sure, why not?
Ed: If I squeeze my cheeks my eyes squirt water, and then sympathies happen.
Translator: Ed apologizes by making people feel sorry for him so they protect him like a child.
Ed: I’ve learned my lesson.
Translator: No he hasn’t.
Shaun: Tiffany, do you have any questions for Rose? $50 bonus if you can phrase it like a pointless accusation.
Tiffany: Yes, I’d like to inexplicably attack Rose now.
Rose: Well...
Tiffany: Don’t take a tone with me!
Rose: What?
Tiffany: Ooo looks like I struck a nerve.
Rose: What?
Translator: I’m sorry Rose, they are douching so fast I can barely keep up.
Tiffany: But you LIED about SO MANY THINGS. You hid so much!
Rose: He set a trap for me. I tell him I’m sad, he tries to get me to take my clothes off for money on a video call. Your dad is creep.
Tiffany: Can we not talk about his history with sexual harassment?
Ed: That’s ridiculous, which you can tell by the photos on my wall.
Shaun: Should I bring up the STD test?
Paul: You rang?
Shaun: Um. Now the hairy legs thing?
Ed: I live in Southern California, where I’m surrounded by beautiful, wealthy women who don’t want to have sex with me. I notice their legs a lot when I’m clinging to their ankles.
Rose: You embarrass me and hurt me. You are always liar.
Ed: I’ll always love you and Prince.
Angela: That’s another lie. LYING AGIN!
Shaun: Can we get the translator to explain?
Translator: Yes, what Ed means is that he wants to have sex with Rose again, and thinks that could happen if he acknowledges her child in an empty way.
Darcey: I’m really feeling what Rose is going through, because I’ve dated Jesse and Tom and been myself all my life.
Tom: What was that, fatty?
Darcey: Ed, you’ve got to stop chipping away at her.
Ed: I’m going to try and make it about her lying, because no one saw this season!
Darcey: You lied about wanting kids, you asshole.
Avery: Let me open up my book of reflective listening. Ed, have you struggled to communicate with people all your life?
Ed: Yes, but it’s everyone else.
Avery: Can you hold these two electrodes in your hands? This is called “auditing” and is a really important part of —
Darcey: I have a magic barrette that will grant you three wishes.
Rose: Yes, I will take that please.
Ed: I lied about my height. I’m going to pretend that’s it.
Baby Girl Lisa: TAG ME IN TAG ME IN! I’m coming for you, Ed.
Big Ed: I’m too dumb to hide!
BGL: You used that poor soul. You’ve cut your own throat with American women.
Ed: Was that a throat joke?
Tom: I’ve got a fat joke.
BGL: There isn’t an American woman alive you’re going to be dating. I’ve got 50 mens who want to marry me and 300 Yahoo boys on hold.
Usman: Yes, I have heard these numbers.
Ed: I’m going to deflect and make this about Lisa having unprotected sex.
Shaun: I’m asleep.
BGL: LISTEN TO ME, ED. Let me tell you something, before any hotdog gets tossed down my hallway I check what is tucked in the bun!
Tom: I’m drunk!
David: Ed didn’t go over there to get married. He went over there for ass.
Ed: Don’t you fact at me!
Shaun: Let’s move on. This may come as a surprise to some of our viewers at home, but there is some debate over whether Williams is British.
Everyone: No there isn’t.
Yolanda: He sounds like Usman! I didn’t know Usman was from Manchester! Do you know Williams?
Shaun: What were you thinking when you weren’t thinking?
Yolanda: Thinking went right into my DMs on the Instagram.
David: Social media is a scam. Only trust paid apps. I’m proof of that.
Shaun: Cara, are you okay?
Cara: That’s a nope from me, Shaun.
Shaun: Lets bring in Scott Hunter, PI, to say nothing of substance in cop voice.
Scott Hunter, PI: Yes, what we have here is a computer. Now a computer is used to log in to what Al Gore calls “the internet.” We believe the perp accessed said internet from an Internet café, which is something that is found in The Europe.
David: Man, PIs are always a waste of money.
Usman: I don’t believe this man is from Nigeria, and by that I mean not from my tribe. Definitely a different tribe. That isn’t mine, or any other tribes in Nigeria.
PI: Are you also a PI? Yolanda does not appear to have access to maps. In my world we call maps a clue. These can also be found on the internet, which is inside this computer.
BGL: Look, I am an expert. I’ve been interneting since America Online interrupted phone calls. I installed it with a series of floppy disks. Then I turned the crank and held an antennae out the window, and if lightning struck at just the right time, boom, internet.
Shaun: Have you been scammed in the past, Lisa?
Lisa: No, only in the present.
Shaun: Well Yolanda, can we have one more shot of you looking at your phone in confusion?
Yolanda: Well I’ll try to call him, but sometimes someone answers and asks why I’m calling information, and I say where’s Williams, because aren’t they supposed to know?
Usman: Let’s see if my phone is going to ring. Yes, I am killing it with the zingers tonight! Yolanda, this is something that sense cannot take. How can someone be playing you this much? And how much did I miss out on by not playing you instead?
Yolanda: IT’S RINGING! I miss him, I do.
Cara: Goddammit.
Yolanda: I didn’t give him any money…that you know about.
Cara: Power of attorney is a beautiful thing.
Shaun: Let’s takes a look at Erika and Stephanie’s shared misery.
Steph: All I know is that it isn’t my fault.
Erika: It wasn’t about the dating ap on my phone, it was about Steph’s insecurities and the shit I found on HER phone. You cut that part, you filthy editors.
Steph: That was instagram, so it doesn’t count.
Erika: Oh, it was business? It was NETWORKING? REALLY?
Steph: Whoa, I had to pause for a second to recalibrate my bullshit. This is still your fault, somehow.
Shaun: Let’s bring out Erika’s friend Jessica for some reason.
Jessica: Erika is a free spirit, and Steph is a constipated one.
Shaun: Let’s bring out Heather and Sanders, since they pretended to play tennis with Stephanie once.
Heather: ‘Scuse me, esCUSE me, yeah, I been drunking since eleven-teen, okay? BITCH. I’m who Stephanie hangs out with on Friday night when she says she’s eating cheese. So I KNOW THINGS.
Erika: I’m sure you’re used to yelling, since you’re Steph’s only friend.
Jessica: Heather let her talk. WTF is this segment about?
Heather: I’M ITALIAN! Dunna be tryin to NO! NO!
Erika: There are all these things I want to say, and I can’t say them because this drunk twat is yelling through my segment.
Sanders: Well, you can tell by my pursed lips that I’m the saucy friend. It seems like you have a lot of secrets, ERIKA.
Erika: What are my secretes?
Sanders: Oh, there’s a lot SWEETIE. How much am I living my best Mean Girls life right now?
Heather: We should start a burn book and OF COURSE MY NAME IS HEATHER! (Wine spill.)
Erika: You were not there. I gave that bitch my phone.
Sanders: I am still fighting for relevancy.
Shaun: Steph, people call you a fake bisexual.
Heather: I can’t get my face to lie right!
Steph: I get attacked for not being a certain way, and let me talk around this question.
Jessica: That’s nice, but I think everyone thinks that you’re not bisexual because it seems like you’re not into girls. You didn’t give anything a chance.
Steph: Well, I hate to bring up my illness…
Shaun: No you don’t.
Erika: When you’re dating someone, you usually act like you’re dating someone.
Stephanie: No, I was distant for your benefit.
Erika: What?
Heather: Get em off me, get em OFF ME! Fucking BEES GODDAMMIT IT.
Erika: Every time Steph, you put it back on me.
Heather: QUARANTINE AND WINE. CALLING IT FOR MY BAND NAME.
Steph: You’re scary. This is my baby voice. Doesn’t it make me sound blameless?
Ed: Trying calling yourself a dummy.
Steph: No, I’m not bad. Giggle.
Shaun: Did you see why Erika was confused about who you are?
Steph: No. She thought I was like my videos, but if you go to my youtube channel and watch more of my videos, THEN you’ll know who I am.
Translator: What Stephanie is saying is that she feels guilty for leading Erika on, and is looking for a way it’s Erika’s fault so she doesn’t have to look at herself.
Steph: WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE YOUR SERVICES ARE NO LONGER NEEDED THANK YOU!
Translator: Steph is used to yelling over opinions that don’t match her own.
Steph: WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?
Translator: I’m afraid I’m an unstoppable force, Stephanie. My douche translation doesn’t stop until the douchebaggery does. Clearly I’ll be here all day.
Steph: I thought Erika watched more of my videos than she had. Have I mentioned my youtube channel? And what’s my dad’s name?
Erika: What?
Steph: YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO INTERVIEW ME AND KNOW I WANTED TO BE INTERVIEWED GAWD!
Erika: Do you see what I’ve been through?
Steph: You’re a very self-centered person, because your self doesn’t revolve around me. Egotistical, narcissistic, yes I’ve got names and I don’t know why you’re the enemy all of a sudden GAWD!
Erika: My time was wasted. Every bisexual woman in three countries is dropping into my DMs though, so that helps. Steph, can you take responsibility for anything?
Steph: No. Just go to my youtube channel this Friday to tune into my talk about narcissism. Or go to my instagram, where you’ll find my performative donation receipt so people can see how fucking humble I am! JUST GO TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL SHAUN IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU NARCISSIST.
Shaun: Whoa, what just happened here?
Tom: Hello.
Raina: I’ll be the drunk friend now. I have signs.
Tom: I was serious about Darcey. She should know this by that text message on her birthday. Darcey: I have a revenge body EVERY REUNION.
Shaun: Why did you meet her in New York?
Tom: I wanted to see if something was still there.
Translator: He wanted to have sex with Darcey one more time. Shannon was the love of his life for exactly three weeks.
Raina: You know what I think about that? Check out this vomit emoji I’m now holding in front of my face.
Everyone: Can we have some of these to use at home? She’s got to have an Etsy…
Lisa: This makes me angry for some reason.
Shaun: Raina, is there any way we could prominently feature you in an upcoming season?
Raina: I’ll hold up both of my emoji masks for that one.
Shaun: We have a letter from Shannon. She says she thought Tom was single.
Tom: GET AVERY OFF THE SCREEN. I AM SO DRAMATIC YOU WANT ME BACK FOR ANOTHER SEASON. SAY IT SHAUN.
Shaun: Yeah, I’m not gonna say that. Now that Tom has stormed off for what will probably be two minutes, tops, Avery what happened?
Avery: Tom hit on me, and sent selective parts of my text messages to Ash.
Darcey: Yeah, he’s definitely trying to get another season.
Steph: The number one thing that turns me off is —
Ed: Air?
Lisa: Other people?
Erika: Women?
David: Massage oil?
Usman: Lisa?
Tom: I’m back, smoking and edgy.
Ash: I lied to Avery about the screenshot thing, okay. I don’t know why she thinks I’m a liar. My feelings were hurt, so everything I did was fine. Avery: This fucking guy…
Tom: Don’t get a British man angry, or I swear I’ll wrinkle this coat and keep wearing it anyway. I didn’t really ask Avery out when I asked her out, but I also asked Stephanie out because she’s hot, and Lisa out because she’s very attractive. I will do anything for another season. Anything.
Yolanda: Well why didn’t you ask me out? I’m still waiting for Williams, but he might get jealous if I were dating Harry Potter. Can you fake a British accent?
Lisa: I’m going to stand up for Tom, because other fee-males are what’s unreasonable.
Shaun: Darcey, are you going to give Tom another season?
Darcey: Fuck that, I’m moving on to my next international affair. Spin that wheel of dicks and see where it lands!
Shaun: Now Lisa, your storyline happened.
Lisa: Me and Usman didn’t break up, we just blocked each other.
Shaun: Some people would call that a breakup.
Lisa: Some people are bullheaded Shaun, and also wrong.
Ed: I’m just being honest when I say —
Lisa: WTF do you know about honesty? And what the fuck do you know about PANTS Ed?
Ed: You treated him like a goat.
Lisa: You’re the goat!
Paul: I thought I was the GOAT? Oh, you mean like, a farm animal. Right. I’ll just run back into the jungle.
Usman: This porn star I was talking to had 2.3M followers. Of course I will repost anything she says.
Shaun: Did you say something about a 2nd wife?
Usman: Yes, I would like one please.
Lisa: I knew about this. Here in the US, this person doesn’t count.
Usman: If Lisa can’t have a child, I’ll add another wife, period.
Angela: But what if she can tote it and just needs ya egg?
Lisa: This is not happening.
Usman: Why do you have male strippers on facebook if my porn star is problem?
Lisa: No, I have them running through my feed so they can advertise through the states.
Everyone: What?
Avery: Can we go back to this second wife thing? You have a hard time with emojis but you’re communal with your husband’s penis?
Lisa: Well she’s not legally a wife and would live somewhere else, so.
Shaun: Wait — Usman, you’re not planning to live in the states?
Usman: No. Do you see what is happening in your country?
Shaun: David, you poor bastard.
David: Yeah.
Shaun: You’re in tears, but I’m still smiling.
Ed: I’ve never been on a paid website that isn’t porn.
David: She still uses the website. For networking. I know she’s not scamming me.
Ed: But I define your relationship, David.
David: I can easily afford it, so gargle my balls.
Shaun: Did you find her in a catalog though?
David: Yes, I’ve been shopping for a spouse in the Ukraine for a very long time.
Shaun: What happened with the iPhone?
David: She said it slid right out of her pocket and down a sewage drain. She furiously waved her hands over the grate for minutes, before numbly surrendering to this great loss.
Ed: Now I’m going to laugh at another man’s pain.
David: Shut up before I roll you down the lane and knock down every pin with these bowling trophy guns.
Tom: Is that a fat joke? Cause I’m here for the fat jokes.
David: No, it’s a hair joke, because with all that mayo he’s going to take a lubricated journey down the center of the lane. The cleaning fees are going to be astronomical, but I can afford it.
Steph: I’M THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO YELL EGOTISTICAL SELFISH PEOPLE!
Ed: I’m so compassionate!
David: Yeah, I’m leaving.
Shaun: Let’s randomly bring out Cesar, who everyone knows is an actor.
Cesar: Sure, I have opinions.
Erika: I couldn’t say anything I wanted to say, but you have time for Cesar?
David: Yeah, I talked to Maria for about 30 minutes about five years ago. I’ve talked to over a thousand women on that site. You see, that’s how chatting on the internet works.
Stephanie: Look, women over there are cold. I know, because I’m from over there.
David: We are not together right now, but we are still engaged. Right now is not the future, and also she still has my ring.
Cara: Can you ask my mom out? She doesn’t know how to use an iPhone, either.
Yolanda: Seven years? Are you saying I could talk to Williams for that long without ever seeing him?
Cara: No mom, NO!
Shaun: Thanks everyone for participating! I’m sure we’ll see most of you on a forthcoming season of Happily Ever After.
Thank you, Patreon supporters!
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2020.06.03 18:07 daprice82 Wrestling Observer Rewind ★ May 20, 2002

Going through old issues of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and posting highlights in my own words. For anyone interested, I highly recommend signing up for the actual site at f4wonline and checking out the full archives.
PREVIOUSLY:
1-7-2002 1-14-2002 1-21-2002 1-28-2002
2-4-2002 2-11-2002 2-18-2002 2-25-2002
3-4-2002 3-11-2002 3-18-2002 3-25-2002
4-1-2002 4-8-2002 4-15-2002 4-22-2002
4-29-2002 5-6-2002 5-13-2002
NOTE: Posting this from my phone so hopefully the formatting isn't all Nia'd up. Apologies for any issues.
  • We have more details on last week's "plane ride from hell." Obviously, that whole trip ended up being Scott Hall's last chance and he was fired, as mentioned last week. Well, Curt Hennig has now joined Hall in the unemployment line, stemming from his behavior on the flight. Hennig had already been acting out during the flight when he was spraying people with shaving cream, but that would have been fine. What got him in trouble was that he goaded Brock Lesnar into a tussle. Lesnar finally agreed and repeatedly kept pinning Hennig down in the aisle of the plane. Every time he'd let him up, Hennig kept trying to start more shit, and people eventually had to calm Lesnar down and tell him it wasn't worth it. But in the midst of one of their skirmishes, they slammed up against the emergency exit door of the plane. Mid-flight. Needless to say, that scared the shit out of everybody and since Hennig started it, he was made the scapegoat and was fired.
  • Arn Anderson and Michael Hayes also have a ton of heat since they were supposed to be in charge and they let things get out of control. Even Steve Austin chewed Michael Hayes out about it, feeling he acted unprofessionally. Jim Ross and Vince both gave Anderson and Hayes an earful about it at Raw the next day. According to the stories Dave heard, Hayes passed out (or was knocked out, depending on who you ask) after he and Bradshaw got into a fight during the flight. They definitely had a scuffle and everyone agrees Bradshaw got the better of it. Needless to say, for wrestlers and management to be having literal fist-fights with each other isn't a good look. Especially since everyone also agreed that Bradshaw was in the right and Hayes started it. It doesn't appear Bradshaw will be punished at all. Anyway, afterwards is when X-Pac cut Hayes' mullet off and Dave says that the fact that X-Pac isn't even getting in trouble for it shows just how much heat Hayes has, with most of the company feeling like he deserved it.
  • Other Plane Ride from Hell notes: Jim Ross has talked about no longer allowing alcohol on chartered WWE flights following this incident. Goldust hasn't been fired yet but he's still in hot water for his behavior on the flight also, when he got drunk and starting singing to a very uncomfortable Terri Runnels over the plane's intercom. And then there's Ric Flair, who Dave says was basically being typical party-boy Ric Flair. "It isn't above him to get almost naked on a non-commercial flight," Dave adds. Well okay then. Dave appears to be unaware at this point of the sexual harassment and sexual assault allegations that Flair would get sued for 2 years later stemming from this. Anyway, Dave says Flair was causing a scene and getting attention, but he's been doing shit like that for years and when J.R. told him to stop, he did.
WATCH: X-Pac talks about the Plane Ride From Hell
  • And one final note: Scott Hall is telling people he's considering filing a wrongful termination lawsuit but Dave thinks that would get laughed out of court considering his track record and all the witnesses to his behavior. During the month of April alone, Hall showed up to at least 4 house shows drunk out of his mind and was also drinking heavily during the European tour, at one point passing out backstage during the show. Hall also admitted to drinking during the day before the recent PPV and Raw the next night, although he said he wasn't drunk during the actual shows (though he did fall asleep backstage at both). Dave can't verify this yet, but a recent news story in Cleveland that Hall was interviewed for noted that he had been arrested 16 times over about a 1-year period.
  • Jeff and Jerry Jarrett's new promotion will be called NWA: Total Nonstop Action. Jeff and Jerry will be President and Chairman respectively, with Bob Ryder, Jay Hassman, and Keith Mitchell in top roles. Jeremy Borash is also involved in some capacity. The idea is to tape shows every other week on Wednesday nights, with 4-hour tapings, with the first show airing live on PPV and the other 2 hours being filmed for the next week's show. And then try to sell it weekly on PPV for $9.95. They've had talks with several potential investors and major corporations in search of funding and sponsorships. Dave doesn't see how this can work and he says everyone he's talked to, including people within this new company, also don't see how it can work. According to sources, they'll need to pull in between 40-50k buys per week just to break even. In order to do that, they would need to create a super hot new star and come out of the gate with an incredible product. Dave is skeptical. Half the people involved with this company aren't signed to contracts and the few who are only signed short-term deals (no more than 3 months). So even if they create a hot new star, WWE is just going to come along and snatch them up. And even if they do manage to get those 50k buys per week, PPV revenue is notoriously slow to come in. It could be 3-6 months before that PPV money hits their bank account, all the while they'll be burning a quarter million per week to produce TV. It's just not sustainable. He goes on to explain half a dozen other reasons why the deck is stacked against them drawing those kinds of numbers on PPV. With enough hype, they may draw a good first week audience, but it'll be all downhill after that. WWA's attempts at PPV in the U.S. have been a failure. Same for PRIDE. Even UFC, with all the promotion and money behind it, struggles to hit 50k buys for most of their shows. With national TV and some of the biggest stars in the business, even WCW was struggling to get that many buys during the dying days. Trying to do it on word-of-mouth and internet hype alone, without television, is going to be a near impossible mountain to climb.
  • The biggest names in the new TNA are expected to be Jarrett, of course, along with AJ Styles, Road Dogg, Disco Inferno, The Harris Twins, Brian Christopher, Shane Douglas, and Konnan. Dave expects Jarrett to end up with the NWA title immediately. AJ Styles is expected to get a big push, as they want to build around him as a new, unknown star. And finally, Ken Shamrock signed a 26-show (3 month, basically) contract with this promotion, and they're going to let him continue to pursue MMA outside of his wrestling commitments. Most everyone will be paid $500-$1,500 per show, although some of the bigger names will of course make more. So needless to say, this isn't going to be something that most of these guys can support their families on. Dave thinks they need to find a home-base arena and run all their shows from one location rather than trying to tour. Selling tickets is going to be difficult enough as it is without trying to promote in a new city every time. They need to get a small building they can pack with a few hundred regular, rabid fans every week to create an atmosphere, like Paul Heyman did with the ECW Arena.
  • It also looks to have a southern feel, with plans to cross-promote in that direction. NASCAR driver Sterling Martin and country singer Toby Keith are appearing at the first show. Savio Vega is doing Spanish commentary. Dory Funk and Harly Race are listed on the talent roster for some reason. Last week's report that Scott Hudson will be involved was premature, he hasn't signed yet. Ed Ferrara is said to be doing color commentary as part of a 3-man booth but Dave doesn't know who else is going to be doing it. As of this point, Vince Russo is still NOT officially involved. But, ya know. Jeremy Borash was on the Observer Live show and said that it won't be like traditional pro wrestling. It needs to be fast paced (Dave reads that as "short matches") and will heavily feature outside-of-the-ring promos and vignettes. They also plan to lean heavily into shock value and "water cooler talk" moments. Dave says this is clearly the Vince Russo philosophy of booking at work and one only need look at WCW to see how easily and quickly that can go south.
  • Dave reviews the latest UFC show. Great fights but nothing else notable, no one stood out as a star, and Dave thinks UFC's biggest problem right now is its failure to create and market new stars. UFC is so determined to be seen as a legitimate sport that they're shying away from any elements of marketing that might make people view them in a similar light as pro wrestling. But that's the one thing pro wrestling does better than anybody: creates stars. PRIDE is so successful in Japan because they steer into the spectacle rather than shying away from it. Great fights are fine, but there's great boxing matches with no-name boxers all the time and nobody cares because they aren't stars. UFC has to create superstars if they want people to care. Otherwise, PPV buyrates will continue to suck and no one will care if they ever get a TV show. Anyway, Dave reviews the show. There was no mention of the 2 biggest stories in UFC right now: heavyweight champion Josh Barnett failing a steroid test and light heavyweight champ Jens Pulver leaving the company. Neither situation was even hinted to during the broadcast, and as of yet, Barnett has still not been stripped of the UFC title, so who knows.
  • Dave finally got a copy of the edited television version of NJPW's recent Tokyo Dome show so he can properly review it. "As usual, New Japan seems to have no idea where they are going," he starts out and boy, ain't that the truth in 2002. Inoki and Chono were doing the Vince/Flair storyline where they're fighting for control of the company and they did a show-long storyline of them backstage together watching the show on the monitors and arguing about things, total WWE-style. Hashimoto/Ogawa vs. Scott Norton/Tenzan was way better than Dave expected it to be, and the crowd was super hot for Ogawa. More importantly, Dave is shocked that Scott Norton was involved in a good match. Bas Rutten from PRIDE worked a match, beating Manabu Nakanishi. Don Frye from PRIDE also beat Tadao Yasuda. In fact, the Ogawa/Hashimoto match was a Zero-ONE vs. NJPW match. So for those keeping count, the first 3 matches were inter-promotional matches and NJPW lost all of them. On their own show. In the Tokyo Dome. And then the Steiner Brothers beat Hiroshi Tanahashi and Kensuke Sasaki, so that's 4 straight matches where NJPW wrestlers are losing to people from other companies or even fighters from other sports. (Anyone else starting to see how Inokiism almost killed this damn company?) Anyway, Chyna was the referee for the Steiners tag match and she kept getting in the way and taking bumps that she would just no-sell and wouldn't back down from any of the male wrestlers. Tanahashi (who was injured) basically had to carry the whole match for all the wrestlers and Chyna, so he was doing the work of 5 people to make this watchable and even then, the match was pretty bad. Scott Steiner in particular was awful and he nearly killed Tanahashi when he almost dropped him while hitting the Steiner driver. After the match, Chyna beat up a male NJPW referee and press slammed him. Also during the show, Chyna cut a promo and began challenging.....well, everybody....to matches. She challenged half a dozen different NJPW male wrestlers and even challenged Nagata to an IWGP title match, but in the middle of her promo, the televised show cut away to commercial. And finally, Nagata retained the title in a really good match against NOAH's Takayama, which is the only match a NJPW wrestler won on this entire show.
  • Last week, in the War & Peace-length obituary Dave wrote for Lou Thesz, he shared a story from 1957 about Thesz and the NWA title. Well this week, he has more details and some corrections on that story from way back in 1957. Because Dave Meltzer will leave no stone un-turned when it comes to making sure a story is historically accurate. Anyway, the gist of the story is Thesz wanted to go defend the title overseas in Australia, Singapore, and Japan. But the NWA didn't want the champion out of the country for that long because they had promoters in the U.S. who were wanting to book title matches in their territories. So the idea was Thesz would "lose" the title in the U.S. in controversial fashion, which would allow him to go overseas and claim he's still the rightful champion, while the other champion could still defend it in the U.S. It was agreed Thesz would drop the belt to Édouard Carpentier. Anyway, long story short, all the different promoters couldn't agree on a bunch of political stuff, as promoters tend to do, arguments over who should have the belt, people losing money because you had to put up a bond for the belt, and blah blah blah. A bunch of drama. TL;DR: Thesz went overseas as champion and the U.S. ended up not having anyone as NWA champ while he was gone, which is exactly what they were trying to avoid, but, ya know, rasslin' politics. It led to promoters quitting the NWA, starting their own organizations, and a bunch of fun shit like that. There's a lot more details here, but c'mon man...
  • Antonio Inoki was interviewed in the Japanese version of Playboy magazine and was pushed to give his thoughts on the recent NJPW Tokyo Dome show. Inoki said he thought the Steiners vs. Tanahashi/Sasaki match wasn't good and made sure to note that he wasn't blaming the Steiners. Yeah, that damn Tanahashi, he sucks, he'll never amount to shit! Anyway, Inoki felt Yuji Nagata's IWGP title defense was a perfect match and should have headlined the show. When he was asked about the Chono vs. Misawa match that did headline, Inoki refused to comment on it, saying he disagreed with the match happening and that he had refused to watch it (Inoki will take his AJPW⁠—and by proxy, NOAH⁠—grudge to the grave). When the interviewer pointed out that the Chono/Misawa match is what drew the crowd, Inoki refused to acknowledge it and said he would have rather seen Chono vs. Chyna instead. This prompts Dave to say that Inoki has completely lost his mind (I can't wait for a few more months to see Dave's reaction when we actually do get that match).
  • Now that Goldberg is a free agent, needless to say, he's fielding offers. Dave doesn't have much new to report other than about a week ago, Goldberg was steadfastly against going to WWE. But as of this week, he's now said to be "considering" it. So there ya go. Breaking news: a person is thinking about a thing.
  • So remember how Jacques Rougeau was going to run an indie show at the Molson Center arena in Montreal, featuring an appearance by Bret Hart? And when WWE found out, they threw a bunch of money at the arena and bought themselves an exclusivity deal in order to block the show? Anyway, everyone figured Jacques was now going to have to go find himself a smaller arena. But no. He's decided to find himself a bigger one! Rougeau has booked the 26,000-seat du Maurier Stadium, formerly the home of the Montreal Expos. Bret Hart is still scheduled to appear, his first time in Montreal since the screwjob. Gonna be interesting to see how Rougeau pulls this one off.
  • Antonio Inoki and Chyna appeared together on the "The Best Damn Sports Show Period" this week. The hosts treated Inoki like a big deal and showed highlights of him wrestling guys like Hogan, Flair, Sting, and his bout with Muhammad Ali. They also showed a clip of Chyna from the recent Tokyo Dome show and talked about how Chyna was the first woman to appear in a NJPW ring in 30 years. Dave points out how not-true that is, to the point that there was actually a women's tag team match on this same card that arguably stole the show. (if you google this, you can find a video of Chyna on that show, but it's not the same one. This one happened in May and I can't find it. The one on Youtube is a follow up episode they did in November. We'll get to that one eventually.)
  • Chris Candido and Tammy Sytch no-showed their second event in a row for Top Rope Championship Wrestling in Winnipeg (fun fact about that promotion, at this time in 2002, a young 19-year-old rookie named Kenny Omega was just starting his career there). Anyway, last week Candido and Sytch missed the show after claiming their driver picked them up late and then got into an accident on the way to the show. This week, Sytch left "a rambling, incoherent message" on the promoter's voicemail, claiming they just moved into a new house and somehow that caused them to miss their flight. And they never returned phone calls to the promoter and he couldn't get ahold of them or made up excuses why they couldn't talk at the moment. The promoter has since removed them from their website and vowed to never use them again after their multiple no-shows cost him hundreds of dollars in non-refundable plane tickets, among all the other reasons you wouldn't want to keep promoting no-showing talent.
  • WWA canceled its upcoming tour of Europe that was scheduled to begin next week. After WWE's recent tour there, WWA ticket sales didn't have a chance. Now that the European fans got their fix of major league wrestling, they ain't interested in this WWA nonsense. WWA is saying the tour has been rescheduled for December but that's not good because WWE is returning just before then also (WWA won't be alive by December so it doesn't matter). The WWA show in Manchester had only sold 600 tickets to a 12,000-seat arena at the time it was canceled. Sid Vicious (the WWA on-screen commissioner) had already pulled out of the tour due to a disagreement with promoter Andrew McManus. Sabu had pulled out in favor of a tour in Japan and several other wrestlers like AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels weren't going to be available either. Jeff Jarrett had also decided not to go, since he's focused on starting up this new NWA-TNA company. Scott Steiner pulled out, saying he's going to WWE (not yet buddy) and there ya go. WWA had talks with Goldberg and Chyna about coming in for the tour, but both conversations went nowhere (put this company out of its misery already).
  • There's a new documentary called "The Specimen" on the life and career of MMA fighter Mark Kerr that is playing on the film festival circuit. Dave hasn't seen it, but he hears it's good and it talks about Kerr's drug issues candidly (I only mention this because it was later renamed "The Smashing Machine" and on one of the recent WOR podcasts, Dave talked at length about this documentary just a few weeks ago).
  • Regarding plans for Goldberg to jump into shoot-fighting, publicly he's saying he's interested, but those close to him say he's not really. Mostly just a way to drum up his asking price for everyone pursuing him, it seems. Goldberg is interested in it, but he also seems to be realistic about it and realizes his chances in MMA wouldn't be good. He has been training in it casually for years, but to start seriously pursuing it so late in the game wouldn't go well for him (side-eyes Punk). In a recent interview, former UFC fighter Tank Abbott talked about Goldberg's chances and said Goldberg is a great guy, but he should steer clear of MMA because every fighter in PRIDE would mop the floor with him.
  • Kurt Angle told a Pittsburgh TV station during an interview that he is indeed planning to go back into amateur wrestling and train for the 2004 Olympics. His plan is to continue his WWE schedule until the end of this year and then, starting in December, he will take the next year and a half or so to dedicate himself full time to training, and then return after the Olympics, hopefully with another gold medal in tow. While he is out, WWE is expected to pay him his downside guarantee. Angle's also expecting his first child in December and Dave suspects the timing of Angle wanting to come off the road isn't a coincidence. If this really happens, it will be a big blow to WWE because they're about to lose Rock to Hollywood, Triple H clearly isn't the same wrestler he was before his injury, and Austin and Undertaker are banged up and not getting younger. Losing Angle going into 2003 would hurt.
  • Some WWE shows are getting name changes. The WWE Attitude show that airs on WB which nobody watches is going to be renamed Bottom Line. Meanwhile, the 2-hour late night Excess show is being changed to two different shows. The first hour will be called Velocity while the second hour will be called Confidential and be sort of a magazine-style show. And finally, Metal/Jakked is being renamed Afterburn. (Fun fact: 18 years later, both Bottom Line and Afterburn still exist! WWE still airs those shows, under those names, in multiple other countries outside the US).
  • In a correction from last week, WWE still has several months to sell off any "WWF"-branded merchandise that had already been produced. But when the current batch of magazines, t-shirts, tapes, etc. featuring the WWF logo is gone, that's it. The company is no longer allowed to market or produce any new material using the WWF initials from this point forward. On house shows this week, ring aprons and turnbuckles still had the WWF logo but Dave suspects that's due to the name change happening so suddenly that a lot of this stuff still has to be manufactured.
  • Jazz suffered a torn ACL this week and will need surgery, which is why they had her drop the women's title back to Trish Stratus on Raw this week. She's had a bad knee for years but finally suffered a full tear of the ACL during the UK PPV last week. (She ends up returning in January 2003).
  • Notes from Raw: Dave doesn't outright say that this felt like bad episode of Nitro, he just points out a bunch of things that make the point for him: Hogan and Flair being the focal points. Bad booking. Promised surprises that didn't deliver. Stupid angles with the wrong kind of crowd heat. And "the sign police out in full force" confiscating signs left and right, something they used to mock WCW for, which shows that WWE is scared of the beginnings of the backlash that is forming around some of their top babyfaces. Anyway, what else? Hardyz beat Lesnar in a handicap match by DQ. Lesnar sold too much and looked green as hell. Heyman pulled out the referee before the pinfall, which resulted in a DQ. And in normal cases, that should be a DQ. But Dave says there's been a dozen times in the last few months where people have pulled the ref out of the ring and it wasn't a DQ, so this felt dumb. Lesnar ended up getting beat down after the match by the Hardyz and the rumor is that was Lesnar's punishment for his role in the Curt Hennig airplane scuffle. They explained Scott Hall's disappearance by saying Flair fired him for not beating Austin. Flair also said Nash wasn't really suspended (as was storyline) but he's actually home with a torn bicep (which is true). So just a total pivot on the storyline and now we're going with real life explanations. Dave says this is about the time during past episodes of Nitro where he started getting headaches. Then they teased more members of the NWO. Yup, it's Nitro alright. After Eddie Guerrero (the heel) got a clean win, RVD (the babyface) ran out and attacked him. Then Guerrero (again, the heel) challenged RVD to fight him right then and there and RVD (again, the babyface) walked away instead. I just heard Bryan Alvarez's head explode from here. They introduced Tommy Dreamer again, doing gross stuff like drinking urinal water and sharing toothbrushes with his dog because sure, why not, that's a gimmick I guess. Hogan beat Flair to retain the title. Great heat and probably Hogan's best in-ring match since his return but it still wasn't great. As mentioned, Jazz (in a knee brace to the point she could barely move) dropped the women's title to Trish in a mixed tag match. And then Undertaker tied Hogan to his motorcycle and dragged him all over the arena backstage, which was way funnier than it was intended and probably not what they were going for when they're trying to push this as a serious world title feud. And finally, Booker T was revealed as the new NWO member and boy, did the crowd go mild for that one. What a fart in church this episode was.
WATCH: Undertaker takes Hogan for a ride
  • Random notes: Horace Hogan has been signed to a WWE developmental deal and sent down to OVW. WWA star Nathan Jones is trying to get his legal issues cleared up so he can get a work visa to work in the U.S., at which point Dave expects WWE to jump on him as quick as they can (which would be another huge blow to WWA). In a recent interview, Jim Ross was asked about the biggest disappointment in WWE and said Big Show because of his failure to get his weight under control.
  • Leviathan from OVW debuted on Smackdown as Deacon Batista, sidekick to Brother D-Von's new preacher gimmick. Dave thinks this gimmick is death for both of them. He also thinks adding Leviathan must have been a last-minute decision because as of this week, he's still a major part of OVW booking and is scheduled to headline their next big show against Prototype for the OVW title. (Wouldn't be the last time Vince fucked up Cornette's booking by calling up developmental stars on a whim at the spur of the moment).
  • There's a terrible criminal case in Florida where a 17-year-old allegedly shoved a 5-year-old into a canal and laughed at him while the kid drowned. One of the lawyers in the case is wanting to subpoena The Rock because they say the two kids (and a couple of other kids) were talking about wrestling before the incident occurred and doing wrestling moves on each other, so somehow they're arguing that that's relevant. Dave thinks this is a pretty big stretch.
  • Jim Ross was on the Opie & Anthony radio show and talked about Scott Steiner, saying they haven't gotten enough medical information to determine whether they want to sign him. As noted in the past, Steiner has a laundry list of injuries and lingering issues that make it hard for WWE to clear him. Steiner only wrestled 3 shows on the previous WWA tour and was said to be in terrible shape after the tour. By the 3rd show, he could barely go out to the ring for his match due to back pain, and people in WWA think there's no way Steiner can hold up to the WWE schedule.
  • Rey Mysterio has officially signed with WWE. No start date yet, he's going to HWA first to spend a few weeks getting used to the WWE style and working out. Word is Mysterio will likely return with his mask (he lost it in WCW a few years ago and has been wrestling without it ever since) because they see merchandising opportunities with it.
  • WWE has been confiscating tons of signs at TV tapings lately, mostly regarding Hulk Hogan. Many of them referred to his age. Dave has gotten dozens of emails about this from fans who had signs confiscated. WWE recognizes that the Hogan backlash has begun and they're trying to keep it from gaining any momentum.
NEXT WEDNESDAY: Davey Boy Smith passes away, Judgment Day PPV fallout, former FMW president Shoichi Arai commits suicide, Kevin Nash and X-Pac throw a fit backstage over Raw scripting, and more...
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2020.05.27 04:06 yaboyanu SYTYCD Where Are They Now: Season 5

I’m back with my- quite possibly in my mind only- long awaited fifth installment! It has taken me a truly obscene amount of time to get around to writing this post and half of the previous ones probably need an update by now. The past year has been insane in terms of my schedule and I have spent what little energy I had shitposting on /popheads and /fundiesnark. Now that people are stepping on my terrority PS if ur reading I’m available, I decided to kick my hiney into gear. In fact, I literally took a day off of work Friday to do research for this post and because I’m so tired of my job, but I once again put it off and ended up playing Sims for three solid days. HOWEVER on the fourth day I rose, put on my little detective hat, and scurried over to my burner Instagram account to stalk some ex-contestants.
Alright, on to Season 5! I consider this to be the tail end of SYTYCD’s Golden Age. I really do think the success of the show was in part tied to that iconic Sydney Opera House-eque stage. After coming short in Season 4, the Ashley quota was once again filled, Debbie Allen made her way back to her rightful place on the judging panel, and who could forget “IV Real’s” less successful younger sibling, “5 Alive”? (Actually probably most of us could forget; I’m still not sure it wasn’t a fever dream.) Despite all of this glitz and glam, the season was not without a truly horrendous edit that Wikipedia will remind us of for years to come.
Top 20
Paris Torres It’s rather unfortunate because this couple, along with most of the other Top 20 eliminees, really never had a chance. I don’t recall them getting any air time whatsoever prior to the Top 20 show. Like were they even in the Green Mile? And that said we have the top Google result. According to LinkedIn she is a director at Turning Pointe Dance Center in Seattle and prior to that she toured with Pulse dance convention. Apparently she was also a pageant girl, which is interesting, but I think happened before SYTYCD. Her Instagram hasn’t been updated since 2018 and most of the posts are about teaching/choreographing.
Tony Bellissimo Okay I really thought he had no air time, but I’m wrong and now I kind of wish we got to see more of his personality. According to IMBD Tony has appeared on film in Rock of Ages, La La Land, the Step Up franchise, and numerous episodes of Glee. He also performed at the Super Bowl and The Oscars with Justin Timberlake and when on tour with Rihanna. He is also on the faculty of Tremain Dance Competition with fellow SYTYCD alum Tiffany Maher. On a personal note, it looks like he is about to have a son with his fiance (or wife now?) and owns TheHubNoho, a recording and rehearsal space, with SYTYCD alum Ivan Koumaev and Matt Aylward.
Top 18
Ashley Valerio Wow I really should have popped in the bootleg set of DVDs from the sketchy knock-off Ebay site I forced my mom to buy me for Christmas one year because I do not remember the majority of this season. Ashley is listed on the staff at Downtown Dance Factory in NYC and according to her bio, she has been working commercially and “has been featured in national and international commercials, music videos and has served as a principal dancer in the hit television shows Glee & Monk. Ashley started her own production company two years ago and is now directing and choreographing music videos for artists seen on The Voice and American Idol.” The company is @affinitydancecompany on Instagram. It seems cool, but I’ll honestly never know because the website crashed my computer twice.
Maksim "Max" Kapitannikov Ah yes, nothing screams "SYTYCD" like an early ballroom elimination! (Ahem, Stanislav & Faina Savich, Jamie Bayard, Susie Garcia, Max, Christina Santana, Iveta Lukosiute, Nick Bloxsom-Carter, Brittany Cherry, Nick Garcia, Malene Ostergaard, Daniela Avanzini, Sydney Tormey.) The stage and the format may change, but it's nice to see some consistency through the seasons. It seems like Max is still competing as of last year. Not much on his social media or on the internet in general. Sorry Max- this update is short and sweet, just like your time on the show.
Top 16
Asuka Kondoh It looks like Asuka continued to dance professionally following SYTYCD up until at least 2017 and also taught for a classical (ballet/contemporary) dance company in California for a while, although she is not currently listed as faculty. I believe she also toured with Ballroom with a Twist based on a 2015 article. Not sure if I’m losing my touch, but there does not seem to be a ton of information on her in recent years.
Jonathan Platero One night, two more ballroom eliminations. I really wished I remember this season better because I remember some mild drama about Nigel thinking he was cocky? Or am I confusing him with that shirtless guy with the white pants that did a bunch of flares in his audition? Anyway he has been seen on television on Happily Divorced, Glee, the Apprentice (???), ¡Mira quién baila!, and on SYTYCD as a choreographer. He was also on To the Pointe, so if you want actual info it’s probably better to watch that as opposed to these crumbs I’m leaving you here. He is also married to Oksana Dmytrenko (DWTS/Strictly Come Dancing) who has choreographed with him on SYTYCD. Apparently their wedding was featured on WE’s David Tutera's CELEBrations.
Top 14
Karla Garcia Karla is currently listed as faculty at Broadway Dance Center in NYC and her bio there is quite extensive. She has done a lot of Broadway including productions such as Hot Feet, West Side Story, Gigi, and most recently Hamilton, and toured with Wicked, The Addam’s Family and Bad Boys of Dance. She was also a principal dancer in the show SMASH and works on a lot of her own choreography including a short film and a musical. According to Instagram she teaches a BDC Zoom class Mondays at 4 and an Instagram Live class Fridays at 4.
Vitolio Jeune Vitolio is listed as a principal dancer at Garth Fagan Dance in Rocheter, NY. He has been there since at least 2011 and his bio there says he was “recently” on SYTYCD so I’m not sure how up to date that website is. The bio also mentions he has toured nationally and internationally, was formerly a principal dancer with the Ayikodans Dance Company, and was a guest artist Trilogie in LA. His Instagram is private, but it looks like he is married and has a son.
Top 12
Caitlin Kinney According to Caitlin’s talent profile, following SYTYCD she moved to LA working as a commercial dancer, teacher, and choreographer, and apparently has even done stunt work. Her resume includes several televised awards shows and commercials. She also performed/toured with Paula Abdul, Kanye West, and David Archuletta and is currently listed as faculty with Hollywood Vibe Dance Convention. Her Instagram shows that she is now married and had a baby girl in late 2019. In irrelevant news, she looks a little bit like Krystal from The Bachelor in some pics.
Phillip Chbeeb Phillip has a very cool Instagram and a ton of choreography videos on YouTube that everyone should check out. There are also several movement focused short films that he has directed and he collabs with Season 3’s Hok often. I saw someone post about him on /dance a few weeks ago and I was really blown away. He also has numerous IMBD credits, notably as a dancer in the ABDC Season 6 championship winning I.aM.mE dance crew and as choreographer for the shows Making Moves, and of course, SYTYCD. I haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but earlier this year he was a guest on The Hollywood Dance podcast.
Top 10
Randi Evans (now Strong) Was Randi eliminated in part due to the wig they made her wear for her Paso Doble with Kupono? I think it’s possible. According to her Instagram bio, she is now a Public Figure. In addition to being a Public Figure, she is on the faculty at Revel Dance Convention and has a production company called now Strong Productions which lists DWTS, ABC, Fox, Radio City Music Hall, and none other than our very own SYTYCD as clients. At some point she also toured with Ballroom With a Twist. Evidently she got into ballroom a little more after the show and has taught and choreographed in several styles. Randi has gotten divorced since her time on the show and now goes by her maiden name. Her hair is even shorter now, and I say rightly so, because despite having no basis for it, I take it to be an indication that she was equally traumatized by the long wig as I was.
Kūpono Aweau Kupono is based in LA and has toured with Ricky Martin and Madonna for several years. He’s weirdly not coming up as being listed as faculty on any companies or conventions like most of the SYTYCD alums do, so it does seem like his main focus might be touring. He’s pretty active on Instagram, but his recent posts seem to mostly be family-centric rather than about his dance gigs.
Top 8
Janette Manrara Ok, Phillip and Janette are really leading the Instagram follower count so far! She has appeared on seven seasons of Strictly Come Ballroom (2013-2019), Glee, Burn the Floor, and returned to SYTYCD as an All-Star briefly in Season 8. She also has a huge social media presence, so it is easy to keep up to date if you head over to her Instagram. She married SCB’s Aljaž Škorjanec in 2017 and they created and toured a Fred Astaire inspired show together beginning in 2019, though now it seems to be on hiatus until 2021.
Jason Glover IMBD credits include video shorts for P!nk, Florence + the Machine, and Christina Aguilera. Other television credits include Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., The Little Mermaid Live with fellow Alum Alex Wong, and, most recently, Penny Dreadful. He might have been on tour with Ariana Grande? My only clue to this is deluded Ariana Grande fans in the comments of his pictures. Okay, I scrolled more and yes he has been on tour with her as well as P!nk. On a more somber note, it looks like he danced in Ariana’s Manchester show.
Top 6
Melissa Sandvig According to a dancer bio for Helios Dance Theater, an LA based contemporary dance company, Melissa has worked for numerous companies and television shows (Sacramento Ballet, Los Angeles Contemporary Ballet, Los Angeles Opera, Glee, Bunheads, DWTS, AGT, Mobbed, Grey’s Anatomy, LXD, The Young and the Restless). She has also done motion capture work for animated films such as Shrek, Puss in Boots, and Madagascar 3, which I thought was really cool. It seems like she has done a lot in terms of production as well and has worked with Cirque du Soleil and Disney. Currently she is teaching pilates via Instagram Live and is on the faculty of Velocity Dance Convention. She is still married to her husband and they now have two sons.
Ade Obayami Ade is also contending for a top Instagram follower count, although his is more impressive to me considering he hasn't posted anything in over a year. Like Melissa, he has recently worked with Velocity Dance Convention. In the past, he has appeared at The Grammy’s with Beyonce, in music videos for Rihanna, and on tour with Alicia Keys, as well as worked on various projects with Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj, Jennifer Lopez, and Kelly Rowland. On the reality TV circuit, he has performed on AGT, X Factor, and of course on later seasons of SYTYCD as an All Star. IMBD credits include Travis Wall, Nick Lazzarini, and Teddy Forance’s All the Right Moves, and the made-for-television classic, A Diva's Christmas Carol starring Vanessa Williams. Despite the fact the latter was almost a decade prior to his appearance on SYTYCD, it is certainly worth mentioning.
Top 4
Kayla Radomski Based on IMBD, it seems she has done some acting in recent years and was in a few short films. Earlier she was in Chasing 8’s with other SYTYCD alums including Kathryn McCormick, Chelsie Hightower, Chris Jarosz, and Ade. TV-wise she has appeared on Glee, DWTS, the Oscars, as an All Star on SYTYCD, and was also reunited with Jason for The Little Mermaid Live. She has also worked with musical artists including Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Cher, Meghan Trainor, and Justin Bieber. There is a To the Pointe, interview from 2017 so check that out for more info.
Evan Kasprzak In the least surprising update ever, since SYTYCD Evan has done a lot of musical theatre! Broadway roles include Newsies (Elmer) and Cats (Pouncival) and was also on screen in Hail, Caesar! and episodes of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and Fosse/Verdon. He is listed on the faculty at Steps NYC and Manhattan Dance Project (along with Ade), although the latter suggests that “currently” was in 2012. Outside of dance, he and his wife were married in 2015.
Runner-Up
Brandon Bryant It may be confusing to some, particularly the AI behind Google's result algorithm, but this update is not about the American football player or the whistleblower. This is the Brandon who tried to sneak onto the show at the age of 15 in Season One. I think we all need to take a moment to remember this, because it deserves to be preserved in whatever the SYTYCD equivalent of /MuseumOfReddit is. He then went on to have one of the best runs on the show to date. Aside from appearing as a SYTYCD All Star, like many others, he was in Glee. Unlike many others, he also has a line of T-shirts street dancewear. Interesting gigs include DWTS and dancing for Britney Spears in her Las Vegas residency. According to an old convention bio (seriously do any of these sites ever update anything?) he "choreographed and danced with Sweden’s hit artist Agnes in Cologne, Germany for the opening ceremonies of the Olympics." I’m a little confused by this as the last time Germany hosted the Olympics was 1972. I know these sites are out of date, but I don’t think they are that out of date. He’s pretty active on Instagram and is currently offering some virtual dance classes.
Winner
Jeanine Mason Jeanine has maybe done the most mainstream acting of any SYTYCD alum to date. Her break-out role was probably Sam Bello in Grey’s Anatomy and she then went on to star as Liz Ortecho in The CW's Roswell, New Mexico, which is currently on its third season. Previously she had roles in The Bling Ring, Bunheads, Criminal Minds, You’re the Worst, Secret Life, and Awkward to name a few. She was also recently on Whose Line is it Anyway. Dance-wise there is not as much listed, but she did perform with Mark Ballas on DWTS shortly after SYTYCD. I think she is also one of the few contestants to earn a college degree after the show. She graduated with a degree in dance and a minor in film from UCLA in 2014 and said in an interview she might want to get into film production one day.
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2020.05.19 20:53 FallenEdits Nick Drake appearance on 'Octopus', Granada TV, March 1970

"Hello, this is the first time I’ve posted on the forum. I thought some of you might be interested in the following item I found in the 11th-25th April 1970 edition of the North West version of ‘Time Out’ magazine:
“Octopus. A programme on Granada TV about new developments, be they in music and the arts, scientific research or literally anything that’s happening today. Octopus goes out at 6.05 every Wednesday and is presented by Andrew Fisher, who used to co-edit OZ magazine amongst many other things. The programme has been running since January and Granada say that it might be extended. Considering that the show is relatively new and that its length is only 25 minutes some really nice people have been on – Bruce Beresford (of the British Film Institute), Harvey Matusow (large musician and computer-abolitionist), Buckminster Fuller, Nick Drake, Angelo Quatrocchi and groups like Love, Taste, and Quintessence to name a few. All this plus synthesisers, mobiles, inflatables and a galaxy of other wonders. Ron Geesin appears on 15 April while on the 22nd April that excellent rock group Mighty Baby. Future plans include John and Yoko, Caroline Coon, Bridget St John and a feature on communes in Britain. All the credit for these goodies must go to the Octopus team of Andrew Fisher and Sue Woodford, who have demonstrated that TV can be used as a communicator of ideas and energy and not just as a means of selling detergents. He is also fortunate in having aware producers and directors around him. With the exception of World in Action (which has a lot more money to spend) Octopus is certainly the best programme on Granada. The day might come when we see Granada do a midnight show as John Peel did so effectively on radio. As a way of helping to promote the North West, on 29 April, Andrew will be presenting several local groups on Octopus. He hasn’t heard them all and so if you play in/manage a group and would like to be considered for this programme, then write (don’t telephone) giving full details to Andrew Fisher, Octopus, Granada TV, Manchester 3. “
I’m particularly intrigued by the Nick Drake appearance, because no performance footage of him is known to exist. It’s possible that Nick Drake experts know all about his ‘Octopus’ appearance already, but I did an internet search and came to the conclusion that this information isn’t widely known about. I think that the only person who has written online about a Nick Drake TV performance is Steve Diggle (presumably not the Buzzcocks guitarist) on the NickDrake.com forum in 2005. A friend of his remembered seeing Nick Drake on Granada’s ‘Scene at 6.30’ in March 1970, about the time Drake supported Fotheringay at the Manchester Free Trade Hall. However the recollection was proved to be faulty because ‘Scene at 6.30’ finished in 1966. It’s possible that Steve Diggle’s friend saw Drake on ‘Octopus’ which had a similar time slot (6.05). Drake appeared at the Free Trade Hall on 20 March 1970, so the clip could have been aired on ‘Octopus’ the following Wednesday (25 March).
Does any ‘Octopus’ footage survive? ITN Source lists a few film inserts from the show dating from January to June 1970, but they are not music-related. There are clips featuring holograms, robots, steam engines and other things. Could it be the case that ITN Source haven’t listed all the Granada holdings? It would be nice to think there could be other segments or even complete editions of ‘Octopus’ hidden in the Granada vaults. I suspect the Drake performance doesn’t exist anymore. If he was filmed at the Free Trade Hall then there might be a film insert in existence somewhere. If he performed in the studio, then I’m guessing it’s likely that Granada wiped the tapes shortly after transmission without making a telerecording.
I’d be pleased to know if anyone has further information about ‘Octopus’ ."
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2020.05.10 06:08 Bootcha Get to know Firesprite, a new CIG contractor.

Hey all, Bootcha here. In this edition of Open Game Development, I'd like to introduce you to a new CIG contractor: Firesprite.
First off, where did Firesprite come from? Well, in the CIG UK Companies House, there was a posting of a Resolution of Articles of Association on 11 FEB 2020:https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08815227/filing-history
In that resolution, on page 11, was a new company I had not seen before: VGDC Lienholding LLC. VGDC, or "Video Game Development Company", is documented as part of the US Group of CIG. That would mean nothing on it's own, as CIG has a slew of shell companies.
However, it turns out this VGDC shows up in a loan charge dated about 2 years ago, the exact amount is not known or cited, to a company in Manchester, UK. This new unknown company is called Icesprite: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11031090/charges/OVECHyeOoxHfI4Pl5r-pyaNZM-Q

Icesprite, is owned by Firesprite: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08240765

Firespite, is a gamedev studio in Liverpool, UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesprite

Now, before you go "GASP FUUUUUUUUUUUCK", that's a completely different Chris Roberts at Firesprite. That was a short lived chuckle. Firesprite also made the VR game "Persistance". https://youtu.be/Tpcu9OU-LH8
A recent tweet pointed out a list of 140+ development partners working on games for the Xbox Series X.
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1258688498879651842
In that list, you will find Firesprite. Also, that CI Games is not CIG, that's a Polish gamedev, that'd be a hell of a swing even for Roberts. The Star Citizen Roberts.
Now before ya'll swing into hyper-speculation mode, know that I have done that for you, and I have come to a few possible conclusions that seem the most likely:
  1. Firesprite is working on tools and/or tech for CIG. VR stands out as a distinct possibility for tech CIG desires. This is the most likely option and safest bet.
  2. Firesprite is working on a console release candidate for SQ42. This is a less likely but possible option, as a console release of SQ42 would make sales in a market CIG has not touched previously.
  3. Firesprite is working on a console release candidate for Theaters of War. This one is admittedly a comedy option, but considering if you're looking for a launch title, ToW is probably closer to completion than SQ42 by Holiday 2020.

Be sure to welcome Firesprite and Icesprite to the CIG and Star Citizen family when CIG eventually reveals this 2018 partnership.

EDIT: I made an internet thing - https://massivelyop.com/2020/05/11/cigs-articles-of-association-reveal-a-partnership-that-might-mean-vr-for-star-citizen-or-console-launch-for-squadron-42/ Hello internet people from the Mr. Neal article.
Also, sharp eyes not my own from the Frontier forums (and relayed to me via StuartGT) have revealed I was wrong that this was a 2018 partnership. It was not.
It was a 2017 partnership: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572508453327732737/709371080514469970/unknown.png From page 2 (page 4 of the pdf) of the VGDC/Icesprite Charge document. This in fact pre-dates the Calder Group's direct involvement with CIG and the Star Citizen project.
Now, I also remind people that these connections all but assure a console port. This is why I said it was possible, but less likely than working on tools/tech. It is quite possible Firesprite is working on a new game, or a port of a previous releases, and their listing in the XBSX devhouses is bespoke only to Firesprite IPs. And for the CIG/Firesprite connection, it is quite possible that if it's not tech/or tools, it could quite simply be they're working on art assets contracted out to them, or even as an outsourced QA for something. However, if we take the language in the charge completely literally, Firesprite is making a completely new game based off something (probably an IP the Charge-er has like, say, SATA BALL).
There are a lot of possibilities. That's why a clarification from CIG would possibly clear the airs on what Ice/Firesprite is doing, and why CIG didn't tell backers about it earlier. If you are reading this Mr. Neal, a good journalistic follow-up would be to ask CIG to comment on this story.
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